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Old 01-29-2020, 01:09 PM
 
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Observations: 1 female dog 10 years old
  1. 3 laser surgeries to remove eye cancer, 3 vet ophthalmologists in the room, $1800/ea
  2. Several xrays and evals during regulat check ups, max $150-$300 each
  3. annual vaccinations and checkups, few hundred bucks
  4. No more than 1-7 days waiting for appointments, for GP or specialists
  5. 3 emergency room trips, several stomach pumps due to suspected chocolate injestion (we had a home bakery), never more than $800 a pop
  6. Vet school is harder to get into than medical school and perhaps just as difficult.
Meanwhile, my health care could bankrupt me, and service stinks.

Why? I can only point out one thing. My dog's health care isn't chained up in government regulation and red tape.

Just look to any industry with minimal government involvement, take the example of telecommunications, where we have wonderful, inexpensive tools and great servce. Then look at the industries most highly regulated and/or nationalized, like education and health care. DISASTER

Given these observations, I'd argue that less government is always better, regardless of the good or service in question.

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Old 01-29-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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It depends where you live. Vet care here is so expensive that when I got 2 young dogs I bought pet insurance.
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Old 01-29-2020, 01:21 PM
 
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Because this was said by an idiot;

" We just have to pass the Healthcare Bill to see what's in it." ~Nancy Pelosi (Quoted March, 2010 )

Then the rest of the idiots did just that

If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people die if it is repealed? Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot, poisoned,, or spayed
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Old 01-29-2020, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It depends where you live. Vet care here is so expensive that when I got 2 young dogs I bought pet insurance.


One of my dog’s teeth ran me nearly $3000, last year.

I spent multiples of that on my own teeth.

All of it out of pocket and nothing to do with insurance or government.

The highest compensated medical specialty is plastic surgery, most of which work, is not covered by insurance.
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Old 01-29-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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One of my dog’s teeth ran me nearly $3000, last year.

I spent multiples of that on my own teeth.

All of it out of pocket and nothing to do with insurance or government.

The highest compensated medical specialty is plastic surgery, most of which work, is not covered by insurance.

Plastic surgery is the one area of human medicine where cost is going down. Why? less regulation
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Old 01-29-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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One of my dog’s teeth ran me nearly $3000, last year.

I spent multiples of that on my own teeth.

All of it out of pocket and nothing to do with insurance or government.

The highest compensated medical specialty is plastic surgery, most of which work, is not covered by insurance.
If you dont mind me asking what procedure did you have done on your dogs teeth that cost 3K?
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Old 01-29-2020, 01:59 PM
 
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Because this was said by an idiot;

" We just have to pass the Healthcare Bill to see what's in it." ~Nancy Pelosi (Quoted March, 2010 )

Then the rest of the idiots did just that

If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people die if it is repealed? Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot, poisoned,, or spayed

Yes, healthcare in America was ABSOLUTELY perfect prior to Obama Care. Was so cheap! Can't believe he messed it all up.
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Old 01-29-2020, 02:00 PM
 
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Veterinary medicine is way more of a free market than human healthcare. That's why the costs are lower.

My last three cats put together have cost me like $2k over the last 22 years. And I take them to a vet that has a PhD in feline medicine, only deals with cats, and would be considered one of the gold standard feline doctors in NE Ohio.

How much is the government involved in veterinary medicine? About the same as they are in cosmetic surgery, chiropractic therapy and homeopathy. Not much, which is why all of those things are cheaper than your health care.

Why is taking care of my cats so cheap? Because I don't have to pay to make sure everyone with a dog can get their pooch 4 teeth cleanings per year for a $10 copay. My vet hasn't been gobbled up by a veterinary conglomerate that is operated as a government protected monopoly. My vet is a small, private business with 4 employees, but there is competition aplenty for providing care to my feline American roommates. The prices and quality of service reflect that fact.

Bottom line, the more free the market, the happier the consumers within that market will be.
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Old 01-29-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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People will euthanize an animal who's treatment is too expensive or who quality of life is next to nothing. With people we spend every last penny to save the 95 year old demented person with no family, the crackhead who's overdosed for the 15th time, the person in a vegetative state kept alive by machines and medications, the welfare mama who brings her four kids to the er for sniffles every other week. All of that costs money that has to come from somewhere and it costs us all more.
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Old 01-29-2020, 02:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Yes, healthcare in America was ABSOLUTELY perfect prior to Obama Care. Was so cheap! Can't believe he messed it all up.
It was not perfect, nothing will ever be but Obama and the Democrats have made things much worse for everyone other than the welfare leeches.
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