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Old 02-03-2020, 07:28 AM
 
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The thing that’s killing me about this crap is the focus on Biden in the first place! Biden didn’t make policy. If Biden did anything wrong, it was at his boss’s behest, and Obama is his boss. If Biden demanded that a prosecutor be fired for ANYTHING, the order would have to come from Obama. Biden is only the plenipotentiary because Obama put him in the position to pressure the Ukraine with his blessing.

So why are the Republicans so scared to go after Obama...the REAL shot caller behind the policy decision.
Obama is not running for President so it doesn't do the GOP any good to smear him with transparent lies and fake investigations designed to dupe the most stupid of suckers.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:30 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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The thing that’s killing me about this crap is the focus on Biden in the first place! Biden didn’t make policy. If Biden did anything wrong, it was at his boss’s behest, and Obama is his boss. If Biden demanded that a prosecutor be fired for ANYTHING, the order would have to come from Obama. Biden is only the plenipotentiary because Obama put him in the position to pressure the Ukraine with his blessing.

So why are the Republicans so scared to go after Obama...the REAL shot caller behind the policy decision.
Because then their manufactured motive disappears. You'll notice NONE OF THEM ever answer why the governments of the EU, plus the leadership of World Bank and the International Monetary Fund would care about Hunter's job prospects. Same reason. If they admit that all of Western Europe, plus two international banking agencies felt that Shokin was sleeping on the job, their manufactured motive for Biden dies on the vine, too.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:32 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Obama is not running for President so it doesn't do the GOP any good to smear him with transparent lies and fake investigations designed to dupe the most stupid of suckers.
Also this.

Couldn't rep you again, yet, Limey.
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:11 AM
 
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The thing that’s killing me about this crap is the focus on Biden in the first place! Biden didn’t make policy. If Biden did anything wrong, it was at his boss’s behest, and Obama is his boss. If Biden demanded that a prosecutor be fired for ANYTHING, the order would have to come from Obama. Biden is only the plenipotentiary because Obama put him in the position to pressure the Ukraine with his blessing.

So why are the Republicans so scared to go after Obama...the REAL shot caller behind the policy decision.
That's the thing -- this 'there must be something' kind of thinking is ridiculous.

Biden was not secretive, Hunter Biden's appointment wasn't done in some sneaky way.

It was all out there to openly discuss, criticize and for all to be fully aware of at the time.

AND the US official policy regarding the Ukraine and corruption was public, and supported by global groups/companies and world leaders. There was not some kind of concern of any wrong doing as it happened.

Why is there some five years later when Biden is running against Trump.

Don't give me Trump must know something...he doesn't -- we all know that.

He falls victim to the any conspiracy tossed out by any nut job on Fox ........it is sad.

And he doesn't read...so he isn't going to go back and research himself to see...he's going to phone up Hannity and ask him what he should think or do -- or he'll check in with Fox and Friends and see how they spin it.
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't trust Lindsey Graham at all. He said he wasn't even gonna pretend to be an impartial juror in the impeachment trial. So why would I care what he says?
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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I don't trust Lindsey Graham at all. He said he wasn't even gonna pretend to be an impartial juror in the impeachment trial. So why would I care what he says?
And if you are a Trump supporter you have to question Graham's motives.

He was brutal to Trump during Trump's primary campaign. It was awful.

And then a switch flipped and he's Trump's best friend. I wouldn't trust him at all.
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:45 AM
 
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Incorrect, there are many companies whose board of directors work and benefits directly from the company, why would they get paid so much money? It's not just the name, they want something in return..

Here's the problem, the son of US VP works for a foreign company who is known to be corrupt, and there is nothing wrong with this to you? Are you this naive?
See bold above. Why indeed? Mostly its a good old boys club, except in the case of Nikki Haley, who's a good old girl. Boeing pays their Board members at least $315,000 per year and, as Moneil correctly stated, all they have to do is show up for a Board meeting a couple times per year. They also get a ton of stock in the company. Nice work if you can get it.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:13 PM
 
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Obama is not running for President so it doesn't do the GOP any good to smear him with transparent lies and fake investigations designed to dupe the most stupid of suckers.
Barry is as corrupt as hellary and biden. Whether or not he is running for President does not exempt him from being tried and prosecuted for his crimes against the US.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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Yeah. Sure he will.

Trump runs the Justice Department. Why doesn’t HE do it himself? He needs Lindsay Graham to do his work for him?
Better yet, why hasn't he done this any time over the past six years?

IIRC, Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate from 2014 until 2018.

Why did Graham and the Republicans launch an investigation into this dreadful, dreadful situation before now?

What in the world has held them back?
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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Barry is as corrupt as hellary and biden. Whether or not he is running for President does not exempt him from being tried and prosecuted for his crimes against the US.
What is holding the Republicans back?
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