In 2002, a retired Marine General defeated our forces in a simulated invasion of Iran....

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by silverkris

You're fooling yourself if you think Iran is going to be rolled over, militarily. They're 4x the size of Iraq in area, and have double their population.

Large segments of the Iranian population may have beefs with their government, but when it comes to defending their country, their critiques of the mullahs are going to fall by the wayside and they'll take up arms.

That’s the thing that Americans never understand. I may get angry at my wife and hurl insults at her, but I’ll be damn if I let YOU do it. It’s really that simple. Don’t know why that’s so hard to understand for some people.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Liberals hoping for a defeat of the US.

Liberals hoping - probably in vain - that the cons don't maneuver us into yet another overseas war to try and boost their votes and funnel a few hundred billion to the MIC.

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

LMAO...that cartoon is brilliant. Unfortunately, we don’t understand it as a nation.

Imagine a cartoonist putting Uncle Sam in the chair to be taught? People would demand his execution.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

That’s the thing that Americans never understand. I may get angry at my wife and hurl insults at her, but I’ll be damn if I let YOU do it. It’s really that simple. Don’t know why that’s so hard to understand for some people.

After 9/11, GWB's approval numbers were in the 90s. The Iranian mullahs are enjoying that same effect. Who speaks up against the leaders when the country is literally being attacked?

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by silverkris

You're fooling yourself if you think Iran is going to be rolled over, militarily. They're 4x the size of Iraq in area, and have double their population.

None of which is even remotely relevant.

Your claim fails because the Kurds, Balochs, Arabs and other tribes in Iran are not going to give the US any grief. It will only be Persians, and not all Persians will be angry at the US.

The US doesn't need to seize Iran, they only need to seize a very small portion, less than 10% of the total land area of Iran.

That particular region is bounded on the south by the Persian Gulf.

Is Iran going to attack from there? Nope. Iran doesn't have amphibious assault capabilities and it wouldn't matter if they did, because the two US carrier battle groups and amphibious assault group will sink any Iranian ships.

It is bounded on the west by Iraq and Kuwait. Is Iran going to attack from there? Nope.

It is bounded on the north by the Zagros Mountains. Is Iran going to attack from there? Nope.

I should point out, well, ever see the Grand Canyon? It's like that. The Karun River runs northwest through the mountains. The gorges are 1,500 meters to 2,000 meters deep and sheer rock faces.

2,000 meters is 6,000 feet more or less, so that's more than a mile deep.

If you think Iranians are going to lower pack animals down a 2,000 meter sheer cliff, then cross a river and then haul them up a 2,000 meter sheer cliff, that's just not gonna happen.

There's only four bridges and once US air-power destroys those bridges nothing will go through the mountains.

The only place Iranians can engage US forces is in the east.

Ever see the Highway of Death in Iraq? If not, look it up.

Highway 8 and Highway 10 will look just like that, only worse.

30 days later when the Iranian government collapses, it won't be an issue.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by Mircea

None of which is even remotely relevant.

Your claim fails because the Kurds, Balochs, Arabs and other tribes in Iran are not going to give the US any grief. It will only be Persians, and not all Persians will be angry at the US.

The US doesn't need to seize Iran, they only need to seize a very small portion, less than 10% of the total land area of Iran.

That particular region is bounded on the south by the Persian Gulf.

Is Iran going to attack from there? Nope. Iran doesn't have amphibious assault capabilities and it wouldn't matter if they did, because the two US carrier battle groups and amphibious assault group will sink any Iranian ships.

It is bounded on the west by Iraq and Kuwait. Is Iran going to attack from there? Nope.

It is bounded on the north by the Zagros Mountains. Is Iran going to attack from there? Nope.

I should point out, well, ever see the Grand Canyon? It's like that. The Karun River runs northwest through the mountains. The gorges are 1,500 meters to 2,000 meters deep and sheer rock faces.

2,000 meters is 6,000 feet more or less, so that's more than a mile deep.

If you think Iranians are going to lower pack animals down a 2,000 meter sheer cliff, then cross a river and then haul them up a 2,000 meter sheer cliff, that's just not gonna happen.

There's only four bridges and once US air-power destroys those bridges nothing will go through the mountains.

The only place Iranians can engage US forces is in the east.

Ever see the Highway of Death in Iraq? If not, look it up.

Highway 8 and Highway 10 will look just like that, only worse.

30 days later when the Iranian government collapses, it won't be an issue.

And what is the purpose of seizing 10% of Iran's land?

Tell me how the Iranian government is going to collapse in a month.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by Mircea

Your claim fails because the Kurds, Balochs, Arabs and other tribes in Iran are not going to give the US any grief.

Yeah, the Kurds positively love the US right now.