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It's called personal responsibility. If you're not willing to deal with the possible consequences of an activity, don't partake in said activity.
Abortion is personal responsibility.
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Originally Posted by YourWakeUpCall
People who can't figure out how not to get pregnant are either stunningly ignorant or lack self control.
That mean 50% or one half of the US population is stunningly ignorant and/or lack self control.
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Originally Posted by YourWakeUpCall
Murdering babies for convenience is appalling and you know it. History will look back on this barbaric practice the way we now look at the Holocaust or slavery. Plenty of seemingly normal folks stood by while these atrocities happened and rationalized it away with bizarre logic. Your first step into the rational world is to acknowledge that you have control of your own behavior. It's amazing to me that you actually believe that lack of self control is a solid foundation for your argument. What's next? It's OK to shoot someone who cuts you off in traffic because you aren't responsible for you actions when you're angry?
no one is murdering babies.
Abortion goes back to biblical times where it was condoned by priests (thus God). It has been practiced throughout history along with infanticide.
It has been legal and illegal in most countries based as much on economics and constitutional law than morals.
I would have thought by now that the pro-choice crowd would have realized that there is a fool-proof way not to get pregnant if you don't want a child. Unless you've been raped, pregnancy is a 100% voluntary condition, i.e., a choice. Why is that so hard to understand?
Because no birth control method is 100% effective at 100% of the time. And unwanted pregnancies happen to married women too (often to those who have too many children already). Some women are what you might call super fertile. If the partner just gets too close, they get pregnant.
Oh please, child support laws are generally incredibly antiquated and heavily biased against the father. Ironically, they're based on the notion that women can't take of themselves. We have a word for that kind of thinking: misogyny. I'm all for equal responsibility: both the father and the mother must mutually agree on an abortion.
Luckily, it’s not your decision what a woman does with her body.
Oh please, child support laws are generally incredibly antiquated and heavily biased against the father. Ironically, they're based on the notion that women can't take of themselves. We have a word for that kind of thinking: misogyny. I'm all for equal responsibility: both the father and the mother must mutually agree on an abortion.
They (child support laws) are based on the belief that both parents are responsible for the care of their offspring.
Do you also feel that if two people have had sexual intercourse then both must agree to any medical procedure the other has; removal of a tumor or wart, gallbladder or appendix? because a fetus is as much a part of the females body as are those. It is not until it is actually a baby that father has any responsibility, risk or rights.
Maybe if healthcare costs weren't so obscene in the US, more women would be willing to carry and deliver the baby.
But when the average no-complications childbirth costs over $10K out of pocket after insurance (and triple that without), not to mention the costs of necessary care during pregnancy, the new wardrobe, increased dietary needs/quality, all the missed work, etc, even giving up the baby for adoption wouldn't stop the pregnancy from effectively ruining many women's lives.
A $500 abortion then seems like the only logical action for women who can't afford to spend tens and tens of thousands of dollars giving of their bodies and lives just to give the baby up for adoption
Keep telling yourself that. Biologists are in agreement that life begins at conception.
A life is ended when abortion is committed. Otherwise, women who had abortions would still be pregnant, because since abortion doesn't kill babies, they'd still be having them.
You value money rather than life. That's what abortion means.
So do you. Otherwise you'd be more open to things like universal healthcare.
Then be happy how the Bible wasn't consulted for guidance as to what to do about a man who caused a woman to have an abortion. In the Bible story, he was merely fined. The fetus was only thought of as violated property.
I am not religious. Are you? You bring up the Bible A LOT in your posts. Do you attend a church and bible studies on a regular basis? Do you live according to the Bible? Or do you just expect that others do?
Maybe if healthcare costs weren't so obscene in the US, more women would be willing to carry and deliver the baby.
But when the average no-complications childbirth costs over $10K out of pocket after insurance (and triple that without), not to mention the costs of necessary care during pregnancy, the new wardrobe, increased dietary needs/quality, all the missed work, etc, even giving up the baby for adoption wouldn't stop the pregnancy from effectively ruining many women's lives.
A $500 abortion then seems like the only logical action for women who can't afford to spend tens and tens of thousands of dollars giving of their bodies and lives just to give the baby up for adoption
Name 1 poll where the number 1 reason for abortion was health insurance issues. You won't find it.
About 50% of babies are born via government healthcare programs.
Epic fail because it's not an issue.
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no one is murdering babies.
