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Old 02-15-2020, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Again ... pro life movement is half the country and the MAJORITY of WOMEN ... and growing every. single. day.
The fact of the matter is that the majority of women and men, too, want abortion restricted not fully banned, meaning abortion on demand only up to the 12th week. This is no different than the way it's now done in Ireland after voters there overwhelmingly repealed that country's ban on all abortions. Most abortions in the USA are done by the 12th week.
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:23 PM
 
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The fact of the matter is that the majority of women and men, too, want abortion restricted not fully banned, meaning abortion on demand only up to the 12th week. This is no different than the way it's now done in Ireland after it repealed its ban on all abortions. Most abortions are done by the 12th week.
You'll never get through to the extremists on each side.
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Old 02-15-2020, 05:03 PM
 
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Every breath you take is a risk. Deal with it.
Oh so now you recognize that life is a risk. Not surprised in the slightest.




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You'll never get through to the extremists on each side.
True they only recognize our points and take them when it suits their arguments just like the above quote.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Pro life means pro life. Again, what is it that you do not understand?

If you break your leg because a drunk driver runs you down, do you demand it be amputated since it was the result of a crime? Or do you seek the best care possible to repair it?

No answer, right?

Circumstance does NOT dictate outcome.

But hey, again, just dismiss logic AGAIN. The lack of logic, understanding of science, and understanding of morality is truly astounding.


Keep insulting me. It only makes YOU look as if you have NO argument.
Again ... pro life movement is half the country and the MAJORITY of WOMEN ... and growing every. single. day.
So now you've retreated to the "might makes right" argument? ...and it's not even true? But.let's.add.periods.to.make.it.true!
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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You'll never get through to the extremists on each side.
So true. Once again, for another year in Oklahoma, SB13, which bans all abortion, will not be granted so much as a committee hearing. They won't give up, even though it's so extreme that state Catholic and Baptist leaders won't get behind it. It's a good thing, considering how bad and backward outsiders regard Oklahoma as a state. Oklahoma doesn't need yet more bad publicity to add to its poor image. A current bill actually advancing that would deny doctors a state license to practice medicine for performing an abortion is plenty bad enough. The state doesn't need doctors to think twice before moving to the state.

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Old 02-16-2020, 02:13 PM
 
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So now you've retreated to the "might makes right" argument? ...and it's not even true? But.let's.add.periods.to.make.it.true!
Your interpretation is inaccurate.

More people are understanding life is life.

You need to ask yourself why. With the intense "abortion is a right" "SHOUT YOUR ABORTION" "abortion is the BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME" media marketing, celebrity-filled full-ON full court press propaganda that abortion is the absolute very BEST thing a woman can do ....

Why are more women pro life than pro choice? And if you add in all the prochoice women that WANT restrictions ... the number keeps going up .. in favor of life. Not abortion.

It's not might makes right. It's common sense. And common sense is GROWING. Women are seeing through the propaganda.

That is the truth.

And, of course, you HAVE to throw in insults? Right? Shows you know you have nothing left except to insult me personally. /shrug/
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:18 PM
 
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People who can't deal with facts often run from them so I understand why you want to disengage.
Next time you post a fact instead of an insult .... well, that won't happen, nothing to see there.

Continue your championing of death culture at all costs. Do you dance for joy when babies are aborted? Stay outside of planned parenthood and throw celebrations being thankful and excited that another life was lost?

High five the woman on their choices, especially in NYC where more black babies are killed via abortion than are BORN? Do you like genocide? Do you celebrate that, too?
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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Oh so now you recognize that life is a risk. Not surprised in the slightest.

True they only recognize our points and take them when it suits their arguments just like the above quote.
Do you not understand that all people will die at some point? That is a fact.

Abortion kills babies. That is also a fact.

Not sure what 'gotcha' points you think you scored. Facts is facts.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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So true. Once again, for another year in Oklahoma, SB13, which bans all abortion, will not be granted so much as a committee hearing. They won't give up, even though it's so extreme that state Catholic and Baptist leaders won't get behind it. It's a good thing, considering how bad and backward outsiders regard Oklahoma as a state. Oklahoma doesn't need yet more bad publicity to add to its poor image. A current bill actually advancing that would deny doctors a state license to practice medicine for performing an abortion is plenty bad enough. The state doesn't need doctors to think twice before moving to the state.
The bill goes farther than denying doctors licenses. It allows for prosecution of any doctor who performs an abortion even in cases of rape, incest or when the mother’s life is at risk. In addition, it states “life” begins at fertilization and as such could open the door to ban birth control like IUDs.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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There are 250,000 cases of appendicitis each year in the US. Mortality rate varies between 0.2% and 0.8%, depending on patient populations; mortality in the elderly may be as high as 20%.

There are 3,800,000 live births each year in the US. Mortality rate of mothers is about 0.0002%.

Show of hands:
How many of you screaming about the death rate of mothers has had your appendix removed since that mortality rate is 1000x higher?
Aren't you terrified that you are going to die?
Why aren't you demanding everyone get their appendix removed?

Because ... abortion ... must make sure abortion ... need more dead babies ...

https://emedicine.medscape.com/artic...95-overview#a6
https://emedicine.medscape.com/artic...95-overview#a7
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/births.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductiveheal...dmortality.htm
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