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Old 04-22-2008, 11:09 PM
 
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Sweden's Pension Reform

Has anyone been keeping up with things in Sweden lately? The country has made several reforms that may surprise some.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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Since Sweden has long been a model for social welfare I wonder how it's reforms towards the right economiclly will affect other countries? If Sweden can adopt some aspects of private pensions then this may make the idea more appealing to some in America who didn't like Bush's ideas. I think America will have no choice but to move towards more market or private sector approaches involving poverty,healthcare and pension issues in the near future because like Sweden we are experiancing a huge ageing population that will affect our tax collection and ability to fund gov't programs.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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It is interesting that people trashed the idea of looking to the private sector and pointed to other countries as examples, yet here is Sweden now having to look to that sector because they can't afford the numbers.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:39 AM
 
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It is interesting that people trashed the idea of looking to the private sector and pointed to other countries as examples, yet here is Sweden now having to look to that sector because they can't afford the numbers.
Yes, if a traditionally-leftist person, organization or country does something traditionally favored by the right, then it is not only palatable, but also perfectly acceptable to the left. Had Bill Clinton been a Republican, I doubt he would have been able to pass Welfare Reform and NAFTA.

And yes, the reverse is probably true as well.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:42 AM
 
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Yes, if a traditionally-leftist person, organization or country does something traditionally favored by the right, then it is not only palatable, but also perfectly acceptable to the left. Had Bill Clinton been a Republican, I doubt he would have been able to pass Welfare Reform and NAFTA.

And yes, the reverse is probably true as well.
I agree. Partisan politics is a huge problem and stalls a lot of meaningful ideas.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:09 PM
 
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sweden has a lot lower polulation and full employment and sky high taxes, totally different
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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sweden has a lot lower polulation and full employment and sky high taxes, totally different
Exactly, and they're still having to privatize because they can't afford their system.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:18 PM
 
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Exactly, and they're still having to privatize because they can't afford their system.
its easier to privatize with less than 10 million people rather than 300 million
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:22 PM
 
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its easier to privatize with less than 10 million people rather than 300 million
Of course, it's easier to do most things with 10 million that 300 million, including cover them with a government-run system. Sweden has shown that they're having problems with that despite full employment, high taxes and a smaller population. What makes you think we can do it with a population of 300 million?
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:15 PM
 
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Sweden does have unemployment but it seems to be debatable as far as how they measure it.


" There has been fierce argument about the true unemployment figure in the run-up to the election, with the opposition accusing the government of massaging the statistics.

The official rate in the first half of 2006 was 5.7%, but another 2.7% who were on job training programmes were not included.

According to a study by the McKinsey Global Institute think-tank this year, the unemployment rate is actually about 15%... "

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