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Old 02-09-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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"Aging feminists." LOL. I see.

Do you have citations for the bolded? Because addiction and suicide rates among men are significantly higher than among women. Men are almost 4X as likely to die by suicide, with the rate being highest among middle-aged white men (https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/).

Drug addiction rates are as high, if not higher, among men than among women (https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...-substance-use).

And men are far more likely to be violent than are women.

All those factors, imo, suggest that men, collectively, aren't quite the blissfully happy campers you suggest they are.

Sorry, I thought this was all common knowledge...


Women attempt suicide far more often than men and, unlike men that attempt suicide for specific reasons (loss of employment, terminal illness, divorce, etc.) women almost always do it because they are depressed.

Men are also far more likely to use a firearm to commit suicide, so the actual rate of completed suicides is much higher in men.

https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral....888-017-1398-8

https://www.medscape.com/answers/201...or-vary-by-sex



Yes and no....

https://www.addictioncenter.com/addi...ces-men-women/




Almost all male violence is aimed at other males (really doesn't have a direct relationship with being unhappy), but since you mentioned it.



The researchers initially assumed that, at least in cases of mutual violence, the women were defending themselves or retaliating. But when subsequent surveys asked who struck first, it turned out that women were as likely as men to initiate violence—a finding confirmed by more than 200 studies of intimate violence.


https://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/

About two in five of all victims of domestic violence are men, contradicting the widespread impression that it is almost always women who are left battered and bruised, a new report claims.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/...estic-violence


As for my point about unhappy aging feminists...

The problem with feminism (if there is one) is that it has a strong vision of how the world ought to be. Inconvenient truths are met with denial followed by shrill personal attacks and screams of “sexism”. Like all idealists (including socialists) there is little debate about how the world actually is and little effort to find pragmatic solutions and compromises.

https://rgambler.com/2014/03/28/chil...l-explanation/

By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

For years I fought the assistance of men in my personal life as I ascended in my career. Rather than accept the help they offered, I sought to prove I could do it all, all by myself. And I wasn’t alone. My girlfriends and I were grinding ourselves into the ground believing that imploring a man’s help was some sort of concession of failure. I had something to prove. If I did it myself then I would . . . win. But that mentality is one that points to the power struggle that was wrongly pushed by feminists. One that was never about being equal, it was about being better. That type of thinking turns relationships into power struggles, destroying intimacy and ultimately respect, making it largely impossible to harmoniously coexist.

https://nypost.com/2016/04/23/women-...we-so-unhappy/
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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The imbalance will continue as more employers and govt provide PAID PTO for child delivery. Men and childless employees will be forced to take up the slack.
Um.... my SIL got MORE paid paternity leave than my daughter did. She was back at work while he was still “slacking” at home.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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My ex was middle management at a bank and made more than I did as a 911 dispatcher. Never bothered me.
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:35 PM
 
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I think that this so called “war on men” is more about loss of control over women and women being more equal than they were in the past. Now we’re in direct competition with men in a number of areas and some men just don’t like it. For years it was men who had the advantage... How do you like us now?
Exactly.
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:11 PM
 
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Even though women are still being paid less.

Sigh. How many times do we have to go over this? Your statement is demonstrably, empirically false. Please stop repeating this nonsense. It's smacks of playing the victim.
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:19 PM
 
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I don't think women are much better off today than decades ago. I think they are under more pressure now than before to compete with men. Back then it was ok for a woman to just have a decent income and not be the boss at work. Now they have to juggle family life and be the CEO. I've seen women managers get embarassed by other managers because they were ill prepared or lack the conviction to make good decisive decisions.

I've had female PMs that sat on projects for months and getting nowhere because they don't know how to push people's buttons. While male PMs are cranking out all cylinders.

It's not about pay anymore, it's about respect. While many men report to women managers, most are just playing yes man waiting for their women bosses to get over whelmed and get pushed aside.

I think eventually they will be some leveling as many women will find that work isn't the end all be all way to live. Some will leave the work force and find a family life is where they enjoy more than work life. They need balance while many more men are simply obsessed with work and power. It's not about equality, men and women are really different animals.

I work at a large company (>75,000 employees). In this industry, women represent about 15% of the work force. My boss is a women who oversees about 3,000 people. Of her eight direct reports, only 1 is a man. Her boss is a woman. The CEO is a woman. Virtually the entire HR department are women. Women are waaaay over represented in the management ranks. In fact, if a management position is posted, we're not allowed to offer the position to anyone until at least 1 woman has applied and been interviewed. Misandry is alive and well.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:13 PM
 
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Exactly.
How many grant-funded free educational programs have you found for girls?

How many grant-funded free educational programs have you found for boys?

There is a war on boys. Anyone who has eyes can see that. Boys are second-class citizens, intentionally.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:31 PM
 
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I work at a large company (>75,000 employees). In this industry, women represent about 15% of the work force. My boss is a women who oversees about 3,000 people. Of her eight direct reports, only 1 is a man. Her boss is a woman. The CEO is a woman. Virtually the entire HR department are women. Women are waaaay over represented in the management ranks. In fact, if a management position is posted, we're not allowed to offer the position to anyone until at least 1 woman has applied and been interviewed. Misandry is alive and well.
We must work at the same company !
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:40 PM
 
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I think that this so called “war on men” is more about loss of control over women and women being more equal than they were in the past. Now we’re in direct competition with men in a number of areas and some men just don’t like it. For years it was men who had the advantage... How do you like us now?
Fine, as long as we keep a distance, lest we find ourselves in before the HR overlords.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:42 PM
 
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We’re talking equality of “opportunity” not equality of “outcome.”
Perhaps, but a lot but men seem to think that they’ve “earned” their place in the hierarchy....simply by virtue of being male. Now tell me how that’s not bestowed artificially.
Who? Which men?
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