Why do Americans hate democratic socialism so much and like Capitalism? (wage, solution)

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by ansible90

So when you get old, you will refuse Social Security and Medicare because you think they are immoral programs?

BTW, there are no private health insurance programs for those over 65 besides Medicare.

(A very few employers provide some coverage as secondary insurance if you are still working but those people are not retired.)

I have already paid into the system far more than what I will ever receive. The immorality was done to me. Why shouldn’t I take some back what belongs to me to begin with?

Those whose net benefit exceeds their net contribution should refuse Social Security because accepting it would be immoral.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by WiseManOnceSaid

Socialism - Look at the abysmal failures of Sweden.

Capitalism - Look at the top riches countries in the world. All have some form of Capitalism woven into their fabrics.

Sweden has forms of capitalism woven into their fabrics. They have free market economy, so they are a capitalist country.

How has it failed in Sweden?

[PedroMartinez]

Capitalist, "I want to work hard to succeed."

Socialist, "I want the government to give me other people's labor."

[ncguy50]

The goal of socialism is communism. It doesn't matter how you dress it up or prop it up.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by ansible90

So when you get old, you will refuse Social Security and Medicare because you think they are immoral programs?

BTW, there are no private health insurance programs for those over 65 besides Medicare.

(A very few employers provide some coverage as secondary insurance if you are still working but those people are not retired.)

Why do you continue to avoid the coerciveness of the schemes?

[ansible90]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Please explain to me the morality of forcing people at gunpoint to pay other people’s expenses.

Nobody is forcing anyone at gunpoint. Get real and answer the question.

[ansible90]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Why do you continue to avoid the coerciveness of the schemes?

Why do you avoid answering the question?

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by ansible90

Why do you avoid answering the question?

Will you let me and others opt out? will you allow a free market in health care i.e absent the govt interventions that make it so costly?
If yes, I will forget what the schemes have already taken from me and not look for a penny more.

What about the coercion you require to fund the schemes? Dont pretend you have morality on your side.

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by ansible90

Nobody is forcing anyone at gunpoint. Get real and answer the question.

Is income tax voluntarily? If not, you are putting a gun on my head.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by ansible90

Nobody is forcing anyone at gunpoint. Get real and answer the question.

What can ultimately happen to individuals who refuse payment of taxes and the subsequent collection efforts of the state?