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Old 02-17-2020, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Solely my opinion without ANY proof, or links, just a loose trail of bread crumbs I've been following...

This is so much larger than Roger Stone, your heads are going to spin. Barr-Trump-Giuliani-McConnell-Graham-McCarthy and a cadre of Regional Federal Prosecutors, have a Tiger by the tail.

Everything in politics that we've heard/read about since ~2014 is connected. The Deep State exists, and its larger, and more powerful than anyone imagined. They now have the ability to imprison people using process crime entrapments, and avoid scrutiny of their own actions by skirting around the edges of the law.(Hillary, Biden's, Comey, McCabe, ect.).

This is why all the Trump associates are in jail, but none of the Dems are. The Dems have built a repeatable model. Its been used so many times now, the model itself has lost its transparency. Now that they know it works, they are becoming bolder by the day. 9 years for Stone...prosecutors scatter..hmmm

The Moderator might have to combine nearly every thread on this forum since 2013 (Uranium One) and put it under a single thread titled "Federal Government Corruption", or "Presidential Election lrrelevant".

Roger Stone is just the most recent pawn that the Deep State is pushing around on a customized chess board they've built, and the Pub's are trying to move pieces too, but they can't. There are too many Deep Staters at every level, & in each branch of the federal government, and in every agency working in unison against them. They have been flanked, and encircled from the inside out.

The Deep State is now going to go after Giuliani, & Barr. If they succeed, then Trump, and then Pence.

It's not just the Dems either, but they are at the controls.
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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these are no longer charges, they're convictions.
Yes indeed.

Trump team seems to believe that lying, refusing to turn over evidence, witness tampering, ... are all small potatoes because this is how the get away with violating the law.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:04 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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This is the GOP leadership folks. If this ain't scary, I don't know what is...

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/s...49586725072896
Context, my friend. He was arrested in a pre-dawn raid with guns drawn; hardly necessary for a non-violent accused criminal.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:12 PM
 
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these are no longer charges, they're convictions.
I'm saying that in cases where the government acts so outrageously unlawfully the court should dismiss charges as a prophylactic just as they do in other cases of government misconduct.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Yes indeed.

Trump team seems to believe that lying, refusing to turn over evidence, witness tampering, ... are all small potatoes because this is how the get away with violating the law.

He will continue to skate the law. So much so, it will be his norm. Like most people that knew him thought would happen. Run the WH like his businesses. See how many of those worked out.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:20 PM
 
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Yes indeed.

Trump team seems to believe that lying, refusing to turn over evidence, witness tampering, ... are all small potatoes because this is how the get away with violating the law.
YOU believe they're small potatoes. YOU have demonstrated that those things mean nothing. YOU have celebrated people who did those things because of whom they did them to. And you believe that the use of shockingly excessive and illegal force in making an arrest is fine and dandy. You are the one condoning criminal behavior here.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:21 PM
 
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He will continue to skate the law.
Be serious. Trump has not been close to violating any criminal law since he became President.
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Old 02-17-2020, 10:53 PM
 
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Trump has not been close to violating any criminal law since he became President.

actually trump was listed as an "un-indicted co-conspirator" in micheal cohen's case. trump's repayment of the illegal campaign contribution continued well into his presidency ( by rudy guiliani's admission ).
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Old 02-17-2020, 10:54 PM
 
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.... cases where the government acts so outrageously unlawfully ....

what exactly do you believe the government did unlawfully in the stone trial?
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:24 PM
 
Location: NYC
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When will the real corruption ever get investigated such as the Clinton Foundation?
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