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How many illegal weapons has stop and frisk policy taken off the streets?
Wrong question. How many criminals were caught, via warrants or who committed a crime or were about to commit a crime? Guns aren't the only metric for measuring it's effectiveness. SQF requires "reasonable suspicion."
Given Michael Bloomberg's comments regarding who should be stopped and frisked, and Trump having said he supports Stop & Frisk (and called for it to be expanded nationwide), what do you think? Should it be expanded throughout the USA?
By the way, I will chime in, and I'm not holding back on what I say.
I support the Constitution and no I do not support it.
I do not cherry pick out of it what supports the current flavor of the month.
There are poor white areas with high crime rates... stop and frisk never seems to be an option... Wonder why?
Because those areas are not densely populated areas where those poor people can hang out on the same sidewalks that rich people use to get where they're going. Stupid question. And it leads us in a direction that obscures our view of the simple fact that stop and frisk is illegal (unconstitutional).
No on stop and frisk-an unjust violation of the civil rights of innocent people. I do support long (and mandatory) prison sentences for those convicted of crimes. Our criminal justice system is a damn joke, all too often turning criminals free time after time with little or no prison time, only to prey on innocent people again.
Because those areas are not densely populated areas where those poor people can hang out on the same sidewalks that rich people use to get where they're going. Stupid question. And it leads us in a direction that obscures our view of the simple fact that stop and frisk is illegal (unconstitutional).
You are assuming that NYC area only used stop and frisk in areas where the rich and poor used the same sidewalks so to speak. Plenty of people where stopped in predominantly poor neighborhoods of NYC of that time. Plenty of non poor black individuals where stopped during that time as well.
I do agree it is unconstitutional and yet widely used for many years... Usually by white politicians who don't much care about minority population in their area.
Really? What white areas are "high crime" equal to that of black high crime" areas? I'd like to see the violent crime numbers.
The intent of stop and frisk is to reduce crime rate. Why must the criteria be comparative to another irregardless of racial lines. Some of the states that have comparable homicide rates in poor rural white areas.... If it can be used to reduce the crime rate in a city, why not in a rural area even if white. Alaska has the third highest homicide rate and a relatively high violent crime rate. Not much championing for stop and frisk in that state.
The obvious answer is that stop and frisk is profiling... No more no less.. When the profile of a perceived criminal is closer to that of the general population whose representative voice in government is strong... Then politicians will put a stop to it very quickly. In areas in which profiling will mainly impact those communities with little to no voice in government... Then stop and frisk continues unchallenged.. At least for a little while. Those groups with a voice in government don't care as long it isn't their family friend neighbors being harassed by the police.
It is discrimination and unconstitutional to say the least.
As long as there is probably cause, I have no problem. And being a gang member or standing outside a house where drugs are being sold and that person is a guard is probable cause.
As long as there is probably cause, I have no problem. And being a gang member or standing outside a house where drugs are being sold and that person is a guard is probable cause.
The point of stop n frisk is that officers don't need probable cause.
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