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Old 02-12-2020, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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This article only scratches the surface of this man's amorality. No mention is made of the nepotism of having his daughter and son in law in key government positions, even interfering personally to get Jared Kushner a security clearance. Nor does the article once mention his utter contempt for the environment, someone who gleefully works towards eliminating any safeguards for keeping air and water clean for future generations.

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Scandals, large or small, mark most American presidencies. What makes Donald Trump historically unique is something different.

Brazenly, Trump disdains even the idea that moral or ethical norms shape his conduct or define the nation he leads. He rejects distinctions between right and wrong for an ethos of explicit self-interest that Americans have never before seen from the White House.
CNN.com

 
Old 02-12-2020, 07:01 PM
 
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CNN.com

epic fail


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Old 02-12-2020, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Here
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Someone pass the OP a box of tissue.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 07:16 PM
 
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Wow, someone fell for some good old fashioned "gotta pay the bills" click bait.

Historians are still figuring out presidents places in history that have been out of office for decades, let alone one that is potentially not even half way through their presidency.

What's next from CNN feeding mental baby food to the masses?
A timely news article about how Buttigeig or Sanders administrations currently rank among other presidents?


Ooooh, even better...a headline of "Was Buttigeig a better president than Trump?" That will certainly get CNN some clicks from the hopeless.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 07:29 PM
 
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There are a lot of parallels between Trump and Bill Clinton when it comes to what everyday Americans will remember: strong economy, questionable moral character, impeached by a partisan house and acquitted in the senate, and no major foreign conflicts. No of the things the media loves to rant and rave about will stick.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 07:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by odanny View Post
This article only scratches the surface of this man's amorality. No mention is made of the nepotism of having his daughter and son in law in key government positions, even interfering personally to get Jared Kushner a security clearance. Nor does the article once mention his utter contempt for the environment, someone who gleefully works towards eliminating any safeguards for keeping air and water clean for future generations.



CNN.com
So I guess the whole JFK/Bobby Kennedy thing is troubling you too?
 
Old 02-12-2020, 07:50 PM
 
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Wow, someone fell for some good old fashioned "gotta pay the bills" click bait.

Historians are still figuring out presidents places in history that have been out of office for decades, let alone one that is potentially not even half way through their presidency.

What's next from CNN feeding mental baby food to the masses?
A timely news article about how Buttigeig or Sanders administrations currently rank among other presidents?


Ooooh, even better...a headline of "Was Buttigeig a better president than Trump?" That will certainly get CNN some clicks from the hopeless.
Nothing in the CNN quote is false.

Is Trump amoral? Yes.

Is Trump the worst president in US history? Possibly. At the very least he is within the worst five.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 08:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by odanny View Post
This article only scratches the surface of this man's amorality. No mention is made of the nepotism of having his daughter and son in law in key government positions, even interfering personally to get Jared Kushner a security clearance. Nor does the article once mention his utter contempt for the environment, someone who gleefully works towards eliminating any safeguards for keeping air and water clean for future generations.
Very nice, Odanny, but I think it's worth asking: Isn't Trump both amoral and immoral?

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epic fail

/thread
Do you ever actually discuss, and argue to refute something? You seem to often rush in with an early response, but these sentence fragments seem a little pointless.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Question how clean and safe have your political champions kept your environment ? look at their districts - it’s not pretty stepping in you know what - nothing but trashed streets that used to be beautiful I’m talking environment here
The one you and I live in
 
Old 02-12-2020, 08:17 PM
 
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Even more amoral than a president who tortured people?

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18 U.S. Code § 2441.War crimes
U.S. Code

(a)Offense.—
Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death. . .

(1)Prohibited conduct.—In subsection (c)(3), the term “grave breach of common Article 3” means any conduct (such conduct constituting a grave breach of common Article 3 of the international conventions done at Geneva August 12, 1949), as follows:
(A)Torture.—
The act of a person who commits, or conspires or attempts to commit, an act specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control for the purpose of obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation, coercion, or any reason based on discrimination of any kind.
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