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Old 02-09-2020, 11:09 AM
 
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CHICAGO — Chicago is reporting a significant drop in homicides for the third straight year, news that city leaders are embracing after the Windy City was singled out for gun violence during a particularly deadly 2016.

The nation’s third-most populous city has recorded 490 murders in 2019 as of Tuesday morning, Chicago police say — about 13% lower than 2018’s total of 564.

That also would be a roughly 35% drop from 2016, when Chicago reported its highest number of homicides in two decades: 756.

Shootings also are down. The police department’s preliminary tally of shootings for the year — 2,139 — is about 9.6% lower than 2018’s count of 2,367.
https://wtvr.com/2019/12/31/chicago-homicide-rate/
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Old 02-09-2020, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's not secret that Chicago has a much lower homicide rate than many cities and is no where near top.

Chicago had a spike but it seems to be just slightly higher than average for a large city. There is far worse. St. Louis and Baltimore are 3 times the rate. Indianapolis I believe also has a higher homicide rate than Chicago.

For an American medium to larger city, Chicago is just slightly above average. Compared to much of Europe and even Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires it's very high. It is 10 times the rate of same the safest states in America like South Dakota.

17 per 100,000 is still extremely high.

Buenos Aires is 4 per 100,000 and Sao Paulo, Brazil are 6 per 100,000

https://www.thebubble.com/murder-rat...argentina-2018

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/22...-and-by-a-lot/

Per-capita Chicago seems to be around 1/3 the rate of St. Louis and Baltimore and about 1/2 the rate of Kansas City, Cleveland, Detroit and many others.

That number though is still extremely high. 17 homicides per 100,000 is still very high considering that most nation's in Europe and many states here in the United States are less than 3 per 100,000.
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Old 02-09-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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What percentage of these murders are black on black?

Until that elephant in the room is addressed, no other statistics matter.
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Old 02-09-2020, 11:52 AM
 
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It's just attrition. The gangers have finally killed each other off and they can't pop babies out fast to replace the dead homies.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Trump More like a double win for Illinois

90 miles away, city of Rockford also experienced a decrease from its recent high of 26 homicides and 161 shot in 2016 to 18 homicides and 81 shot in 2019. In terms of overall violent crime rate, Rockford is higher than Chicago due to having a high aggravated assault rate, including over double the rate of shooting incidents (442 shootings in 2019, which is a decrease from the year prior) than Chicago.
https://rockfordscanner.com/violent-...nt-on-tuesday/
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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Trump had nothing to do with that. That was the city of Chicago on its own. Murder is a local problem, not a national problem.

By the way, Kansas City is also a Midwestern city. Kansas City has a higher murder rate than Chicago does. KCMO has the 5th highest per capta murder rate in the country. In 2019, Kansas City had about 155 murders. Considering 491,000 people live there, would you call that a win for Trump?

Philadelphia's murder rate rate has been on the rise. Baltimore's murder rate has been on the rise for years. So has St. Louis. It seems like Pennsylvania and Missouri, states that supported Trump (Trump barely won PA though, by less than 1 percentge point) can't catch a break with increasing homicide rates. Memphis went from 180 murders in 2017 to 191 murders in 2019.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:56 PM
 
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It's just attrition. The gangers have finally killed each other off and they can't pop babies out fast to replace the dead homies.
Then explain why Kansas City, St. Louis, Philadelphia, Memphis, and Baltimore have increasing homicide rates, and those cities have worse homicide rates than Chicago.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:57 PM
 
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What percentage of these murders are black on black?

Until that elephant in the room is addressed, no other statistics matter.
Black on Black murder gets discussed, but no one has figured out how to stop individuals from murdering each other. Everyone knows that a majority of the perpetrators and the victims are Black males. No one has come up with any decent solution to stop this problem. It's not an elephant in the room, it's not a dirty little secret. It's something few people know what to do in terms of solutions.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Then explain why Kansas City, St. Louis, Philadelphia, Memphis, and Baltimore have increasing homicide rates, and those cities have worse homicide rates than Chicago.
See post #3.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:58 PM
 
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What percentage of these murders are black on black?

Until that elephant in the room is addressed, no other statistics matter.
This is a link from mid-2016.

Chicago: 75% of Murdered Are Black, 71% of Murderers Are Black

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...rers-are-black

From link:
- The data on offenders also tells a troubling story: Young, Black males are overwhelmingly committing most of the murders.
- Based on the data on the victims, that means young, Black males are primarily killing other young, Black males.

Victims by race given in link:
Black ---- 75.3%
Hispanic - 18.9%
White ----- 4.6%
Other ----- 1.2%

Offenders by race in link:
Black ----- 71.3%
Hispanic -- 24.6%
White ------ 3.5%
Other ------ 0.6%

I'd say the breakdown is about the same today?
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