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Old 02-15-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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Aww gee, more acceptable media coverage.

Roger Stone asks for new trial in sealed motion, one day after Trump accused jury forewoman of bias - The Washington Post That's be the WP, btw.

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Fox News pulling out all the stops for a retrial because a juror has a political opinion, this is unacceptable. LOL


But this is what they do at Fox.
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Old 02-15-2020, 10:38 AM
 
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It is standard practice to ask if each juror can reach an impartial verdict. If she said 'yes', that is it.

yep.


the last time i was on a jury the case involved an aspect of domestic violence. two of the questions i had to answer were "have you or a close family member worked with victims of domestic violence?" and "have you ever been a victim or a perpetrator of a violent crime?", i answered "yes" to both. both attorneys followed up on these questions and i explained that my wife had worked in a woman's shelter and, in my youth, i had been in a few bar brawls. both then asked me if i believed i could reach an impartial verdict. i said "yes". i assumed both sides would dismiss me and started packing up to go home. not only did i get selected but the other jurors voted me foreman.


just playing the poll numbers a jury of 12 in the US is going to have 6 anti-trump, 5 pro-trump and 1 undecided. i doubt stone can get a retrial based on the jury.
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Old 02-15-2020, 11:02 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The SCOTUS case of McDonough Power Equipment, Inc. v. Greenwood provides a basis for challenging a verdict based on inaccurate answers given by a juror during a voir dire. A tweet by Don the Con does not. Such retrial should be with an impartial jury; not one selected by the President.
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Old 02-15-2020, 11:14 AM
 
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How many MAGA hat wearers were on the jury?
Zero. There were no Republicans in the 80-juror pool.
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Old 02-15-2020, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Guess Stone's lawyers didn't get enough Trump money/support since they didn't even do a decent voir dire ahead of time to catch this flagrant Democrat!
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Old 02-15-2020, 12:12 PM
 
Location: The 719
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So, maybe the outcome of the jury deliberations were influenced, tainted, tilted toward guilty. Appears to not be a very good job of vetting prospective jurors by Stone defense team, nor by the judge. There is always more to the story, then what is initially known.

Fair and impartial? Hah!








https://www.foxnews.com/us/roger-sto...and-conviction
This is all going to blow up in the dems' face, just like every other thing they do.

How'd P-Hat rally turn out for ya?

How'd Kavanaugh Hearings turn out for ya?

How'd Antifa turn out for ya?

How'd George Soros funding turn out for ya?

How'd Jill Stein's recount turn out for ya?

How'd Mullertime turn out for ya?

How'd Impeach Fotifav turn out for ya?

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One of the most damaging lies the Fakestream Lamestream Blamestream Mainstream media perpetrates on us every minute of every single day is lying by omission. They ignore stories that don't fit their narrative and cram garbage into their echo-chambers constantly.

Fox News is about 41% free of this garbage and others are outraged.



Get a life.
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Old 02-15-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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just playing the poll numbers a jury of 12 in the US is going to have 6 anti-trump, 5 pro-trump and 1 undecided. i doubt stone can get a retrial based on the jury.

Sure.

https://west.ops.politico.com/2016-e...t-of-columbia/
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Old 02-15-2020, 01:13 PM
 
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fair enough. for some reason i can't open your link but i'll assume it shows clinton got 90% of the vote in DC ( i was using national polling numbers ). even more reason for stone's defense to file a motion before jury selection if they felt they couldn't get a fair trial.
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Old 02-15-2020, 01:35 PM
 
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fair enough. for some reason i can't open your link but i'll assume it shows clinton got 90% of the vote in DC ( i was using national polling numbers ). even more reason for stone's defense to file a motion before jury selection if they felt they couldn't get a fair trial.
Sorry about the link, it is the Politico 2016 results drilled down to DC. Clinton received 92.8% of the vote there. I didn't follow the Stone trial but anyone could guess that it would be nearly impossible for him to get a fair trial in that district.

From voir dire:

"One prospective juror interestingly used Stone's own words ( a dirty-trickster ) to describe the defendant.

Stone's attorneys motioned to strike for cause. Judge Jackson said she believed the PJ that he could be fair and impartial but 'in an abundance of caution' sent him home."
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Old 02-15-2020, 03:22 PM
 
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So, maybe the outcome of the jury deliberations were influenced, tainted, tilted toward guilty. Appears to not be a very good job of vetting prospective jurors by Stone defense team, nor by the judge. There is always more to the story, then what is initially known.

Fair and impartial? Hah!








https://www.foxnews.com/us/roger-sto...and-conviction
Stone’s defense team knew all about her political history before they agreed to let her become a juror.
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