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Old 02-15-2020, 06:05 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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A reasonable outcome when cities blatantly violate federal law. Even worse, they actively support subversion of the law. Frankly, the federal government needs to start arresting city/county government officials for obstruction of justice.


There's a system in place for changing laws. Anyone who is unwilling to let that system work and chooses to engage in subterfuge should be prepared to accept the consequences.
They are not violating federal law, if they want to change the ground rules for federal money then go for it. The police chiefs in these cities are behind their policies not some left wing radicals, they know what is best for their city.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Martial law means the military gets involved.

BORTAC is federal law enforcement.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:38 AM
 
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Asylum for refugees is a human right under international law. Mexico can't absorb those people, it has problems of its own with the drug war that is fuelled by American $$$.
We have every right to review their cases for bogus claims and that is what we are doing by making them wait in Mexico. We can't absorb all those people either. Perhaps Mexico should guard it's own southern border.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:45 AM
 
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Get your story straight. One minute "illegals" are so lazy or helpless they are mooching off social welfare, the next minute they are gang-bangers, presumably making money dealing drugs.



No, the truth is this is all a bunch of racist/xenophobic stereotypes designed to pander to the lowest instincts of humanity.
There is a mix of both just like any other group. Objecting to illegal immigration has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia. Illegal alien isn't a race it's an unlawful presence in our country and who fears strangers that are here legally? You and your fellow pro-illegals silly arguments are getting old.

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Old 02-15-2020, 07:05 AM
 
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Get your story straight. One minute "illegals" are so lazy or helpless they are mooching off social welfare, the next minute they are gang-bangers, presumably making money dealing drugs.



No, the truth is this is all a bunch of racist/xenophobic stereotypes designed to pander to the lowest instincts of humanity.
I see, so if someone points out the bad ones, that makes them _____ists or the like.

So what does it make those who ignore or refuse to acknowledge the bad among them?

Not all illegal aliens are hardened criminals, nor moochers. But neither are they all hard working, God fearing people who are too proud to take handouts or capable of crime.
The trouble is many on the left and in the media never discuss the ills of those who have no intention of leading a crime free life.
Some of these gang-banger types are so ruthless, it caused the black gangs of the Crips and the Bloods to band together for survival.
As you may or may not know, they were mortal enemies killing each other. But some of the brown gangs were raised in paramilitary environments, and more ruthless than our own home grown gang members. Are those really the types of people we want roaming American cities?

So why is so little attention focused on that, vs. the weekly sob stories about how moderates and conservatives are ________ if they do not agree with unfettered illegals crossing open borders?



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Old 02-15-2020, 07:07 AM
 
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They could just arrest and or fine the business owners that exploit the cheap labor illegals provide...
They'd have to imprison a lot of hypocritical right wingers in that case. Including Trump
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:15 AM
 
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I'm a leftist idiot because I oppose inefficient use of government resources? Heh, right. We already have institutions for dealing with gangs. Gangs exist in non-Sanctuary cities as well. Are we sending border guards to deal with them as well? No? This is political posturing.
I am not saying you are an idiot, but lets not play games. Securing our borders must be done in some fashion, inefficient or not. Trouble is many of the proposals of the left, still have illegals being able to get into the country, then disappear.
Just look at how many illegal aliens they estimate we currently have over the decades with what I presume you think are more efficient use of resources.
Walls/barriers will stop a majority of them in comparison to sensors/drones and the like. It also makes bringing drugs into our country more difficult.

As to your other point, I cannot believe any intelligent proffers such notions. You must not have thought it through to say it.
Yes, we have American citizens who murder, rape, commit DUI's, etc., etc., etc.
Regardless, how on earth does it make sense to want even more people doing that, when they do not belong in the country in the first place


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Old 02-15-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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So you don't think both can be true? You don't think anyone on welfare could also be in a gang or engaging in illegal activity? That's right--people who are desperate for money and have no tax ID are all so pure of heart they would NEVER commit fraud or engage in illegal activity to get by.
Indeed

The argument use to be that if you gave an them one welfare program (to help get them on their feet) that they would eventually be able to stand on their own, and not need it after X amount of years.
[This of course despite the fact they were not suppose to be here in the first place]

So a study was conducted to see after 10 years how many were still on government assistance, and how many had dropped it (and if so, when).
To the surprise of those conducting the study, most were still on government assistance, and a majority were now on more than one program.
So the liberal elite thinking was proved to be just the opposite of what happened.

I have no doubt groups like LaRaza contribute to them being on the public dime, because they hand out pamphlets showing illegal aliens how to apply for all sorts of government assistance, get legal aid, medical care, kids in school, etc.
That naturally drains the system for our own citizens, but the liberals/leftists never want to talk about that either.


That is a far cry from when immigrants use to come to America with little more than the clothes on their backs, and maybe a few shekels in their pockets. They fended for themselves, and still managed to assimilate into American culture.


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Old 02-15-2020, 08:19 AM
 
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Asylum for refugees is a human right under international law. Mexico can't absorb those people, it has problems of its own with the drug war that is fuelled by American $$$.
Wow

Your thinking is the poster child for how we must remain a sovereign nation, and not allow the globalists to destroy our constitutional republic.
No wonder so many who think like you want to eviscerate our 2nd Amendment rights. That way it could be a bloodless coup like other countries have experienced.

Now we are worried about poor Mexico to the point of saying "yes, just be a land bridge to all of South & Central Americans crossing your borders while heading to the USA", right?
That is not to mention how people from all over the world (including those looking to do us harm) are finding their way into America via our southern border.

Here is a serious question I have asked others before, and am very curious what your answer will be.

According to your thinking, we are obligated under "international law" to allow everyone seeking asylum into our country.
Fine

So what number of illegal aliens should we accept, before we cut them off, 10 thousand, 10 million, 10 billion?

Also who decides?

Lastly, lets say you think we should take 1 billion.
So what happens when #1 billion crosses the border, yet the most retched, pathetic mother and her kids (as we all know, it is always families of women and children, never young males) are just behind them.
Do you say sorry, we met our number and you just missed the cut?
Even if you break your own figure to let her and the kids in, what of the ones behind her?





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