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Old 02-16-2020, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Algiers Accords were negotiated by the Carter admin (Warren Christopher) and the hostages were freed as a result of that accord. Those are the facts, and apparently it is news to many here who think Reagan got them released.
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Old 02-16-2020, 09:34 PM
 
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As you say the Iranians knew Reagan would act decisively.
In what way would Reagan had acted decisively to get those hostages released?
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Really??? then why did it take so long to have them freed? Again...Carter was a pushover with no balls.


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Carter is in fact the reason the hostages were freed if you read through all the negotiations that took place. Iran decided to free the hostages before Reagan took office but you are correct in that they did not want this to happen while Carter was president. The claim that they were afraid of Reagan is a republican myth, this was the same Reagan that supplied arms to Iran.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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Really??? then why did it take so long to have them freed? Again...Carter was a pushover with no balls.
Tell us then how he could have gotten them released, unharmed, oh mental giant with huge brass balls.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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Does Carter get enough credit for this?
It was Carter who allowed the hostages to be taken in the first place.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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20% inflation and interest rates. I’m sure many remember. Carter was the worst POTUS I’d ever experienced up until Obama.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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I.The economy was in the dumpster when Carter won.
Totally untrue. 1978 was a record year for new car sales. The so-called "Arab Oil Embargo" ended in March, 1974. Interest rates were low when Carter took office, but ballooned by 1980.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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In what way would Reagan had acted decisively to get those hostages released?
Carter was spineless and Reagan had a backbone and Iran knew it.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:34 AM
 
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Tell us then how he could have gotten them released, unharmed, oh mental giant with huge brass balls.
Sounds like you never experienced Carter or Reagan. It’s obvious to those that did. Ask your parents.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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[quote=Leona Valley;57356075]Sounds like you never experienced Carter or Reagan. It’s obvious to those that did. Ask your parents.[/QUOTE

DH was very involved in the 2nd Carter campaign in our county because he couldn't stand Teddy Kennedy. SO yes, I was around as a full grown woman and mother of 3 kids.

I just have a different outlook and concept of what government should and should not do. That does not make me wrong and you right. Just different.

I also may have a different opinion of protesting Iranians. They protested at the consulate in Houston when we lived there. My kid had to go to a location almost next door, weekly for many months. It was a trip we all dreaded due to protesting students. Took forever because the students were permitted to block traffic close to downtown. The students also knocked one of the Carter sons down the stairs at the university of Houston.

IMO, they should have all had their visas revoked. But the schools wanted their money so they could do what they pleased.

While I can agree Carter mishandled some of the situation, so did many others. Why did our beloved CIA put the Shah in power while many Americans cheered?

The now whitewashed Iran Contra crime will forever color my opinion of Reagan, and Wm. Barr.

Just like other POTUS, Carter knew only what the CIA wanted him to know.
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