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View Poll Results: should trans (or other) males be allowed to compete against females in the marathon?
yes, lets entirely get rid of the segregation by gender in sports, and have everyone compete together. 5 6.49%
yes, if a male has transitioned to female, he/she should be allowed to compete with the females. 2 2.60%
no. 69 89.61%
other (please explain below). 1 1.30%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-16-2020, 05:26 PM
 
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After multiple years of testosterone suppression a man’s muscles become softer and more like a females.
Do their lungs and hearts get smaller, their pelvises wider, and does their hemoglobin drop?

When all that happens, then we can talk.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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If you have a Y chromosome in any combination, you are male. That's it.

Something like 1 in 20,000 males have no Y chromosome, and I think there is some kind of disorder where females can have a Y chromosome. So because of these extreme exceptions, we must tear our entire civilization down and start over, said the left.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:40 PM
 
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No. This bizarro world crap must stop.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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I think the current policy (having the sports leagues set their own rules on this with the participation of student athletes) is the right way to deal with this. The best and most fair solutions can be arrived at quicker than legislation.
While I generally agree that legislation should be "last resort", the issue seems ...

1. The leagues bend over trying to be PC, to oversimplify.
2. When trans aren't accepted into the circumstances they desire - be that competing against gender, or ability to use bathrooms/locker rooms, etc they choose - then they file lawsuits.

It's probably why we hear of "trans backlash" etal creating the LGBTQIA (if I've got that right) from the LGB crowd.

What is an "Acceptable" or "legal" transperson?

They declare they're trans?
They're a certain age?
They begin HRT?
They have HRT for a certain period of time, theoretically agreed-upon by doctors that renders them equivalent to their chosen gender?
Gender reassignment surgery?

or whatever qualifications I haven't thought of?
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:44 PM
 
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Level-out the playing-field by letting the biological-women jack some Vitamin-S.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:45 PM
 
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No.
Not no but hell no.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:45 PM
 
Location: USA
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No. This bizarro world crap must stop.
Naw, it will continue, after all they call themselves Progressives. Not that they believe in Progress. They just believe in progressing their Social experiment.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:46 PM
 
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Naw, it will continue, after all they call themselves Progressives. Not that they believe in Progress. They just believe in progressing their Social experiment.
No matter how badly it continuously fails.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Naw, it will continue, after all they call themselves Progressives. Not that they believe in Progress. They just believe in progressing their Social experiment.

And the Social Experiment always leads to Totalitarian Oppression. If not, they say the fix "just wasn't Progressive enough". That's why the big push to only to disarm the law abiding.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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It means the muscular advantages a biological male has over a female start to even out and fade away.
because I wouldn't know...

If a trans takes testosterone-suppression substances, but continues to exercise and lift as normal, do their muscles change to become "like a woman's"?
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