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Walk in clinics are private which is exactly my point. Going to a public hospital in case of an emergency ? I hope it's truly urgent or else be ready to wait almost all day in most cases.
It’s call insurance. Government health care plan pay for the visits. Do private insurance companies own walk-in clinics in the U.S.?
So you were lying when you said many Canadians can’t get access to treatment/see a doctor. If you had said up north, I would have agreed. I know many Inuit/First Nations patients living in the north are flown south for treatment.
I notice you didn’t answer my question about where you lived. I also noticed from your previous posts that you do not seem to realize that each province runs its own health care plan and there are differences between provinces.
Edited to add: Yes, shingles is urgent but not life-threatening. There’s only a window of about 48 hours where an anti-viral medication will help.
Walk in clinics are private which is exactly my point. Going to a public hospital in case of an emergency ? I hope it's truly urgent or else be ready to wait almost all day in most cases.
Where do you live? You sure don't live in the provinces I've lived in...You are wrong about almost everything you've posted here.
Maybe the OP can find links showing how U.S. life expectancy or child mortality has surpassed Canada. Would love to see that evidence.
Most doctors if they are worth a crap think about best outcome: “will the availability of a procedure or medication improve outcomes for the patient?” And if it’s a tiny amount then you tell the patient so they can make an educated choice.
Last I checked Canada had a longer life expectancy and spends much less as a portion of GDP.
Seems like they have an efficient way to get better outcomes. Almost 4 years longer life expectancy for 2/3 the cost.....
So you were lying when you said many Canadians can’t get access to treatment/see a doctor. If you had said up north, I would have agreed. I know many Inuit/First Nations patients living in the north are flown south for treatment.
I notice you didn’t answer my question about where you lived. I also noticed from your previous posts that you do not seem to realize that each province runs its own health care plan and there are differences between provinces.
I provided many links with actual data but as a true irrational believer you rather just say "not true" despite all the articles online mentioning the issue.
How could anyone not know there are differences between Provinces, since we are all issued provincial healthcare cards ? Where exactly do I live...Who the *** do you think you are. Get lost.
Walk in clinics are private which is exactly my point. Going to a public hospital in case of an emergency ? I hope it's truly urgent or else be ready to wait almost all day in most cases.
It's late and I will comment further tomorrow, but I think this post, just may prove you aren't in Canada and have no experience with the Canadian system. Why?
Because public hospitals??? Private??? Regardless of whether or not a hospital is non-profit, public, or privately run, just like walk-in clinics, IT DOES NOT MATTER!! You are covered for those costs by your provincial healthcare plan.
Sorry, but I truly believe you have been exposed as a fake, as you seem to be implying that walk-in clinics and hospitals have a priority system in regard to their ownership....THEY DO NOT!
Let alone your failure to show documentation about the French system.
Asking an anonymous ID what province they live in is not an invasion of privacy. You’re anonymous.
Who do I think I am? I’m someone who was trying to decide if you were truly ignorant or a troll. I have my answer.
I think we all do, Irene. I was particularly intrigued by Sorel's earlier post. I believe it was post number 53 in this thread:
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Originally Posted by Sorel36
I was put on a 5 year wait list to be assigned a doctor. Fortunately it "only" took 18 months. She has so many patients she could not wait to be done with my "examination" and move on to the next one. I tried to get another doctor but it's against the rules.
As you know, Irene, as do all Canadians, nobody who qualifies for healthcare in Canada is assigned a doctor. You choose your own doctor. Heck, check the Web for physicians in your area, then pick up the phone and call one to book an appointment. Some may not be accepting new patients, but they will be happy to refer you to another doctor who is. You don't like that doctor because "she could not wait to be done with my 'examination' and move on to the next one"? Call another doctor. So, naturally, there is no"waiting list to be assigned a doctor," because doctors are not assigned. And if doctors are not assigned, then getting another doctor is not against the rules. It is extremely hard to believe that Sorel is a Canadian in Canada, if his or her knowledge of the Canadian healthcare system demonstrates such ignorance of it.
Then we get this:
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Originally Posted by Sorel36
Walk in clinics are private....
Well, of course they are, as all Canadians know. So, for that matter, are doctors--they don't work for the government; they are private businesspeople. Same for hospitals. With very few exceptions (for example, the National Defense Medical Centre in Ottawa, which is indeed a government hospital, for members of the Canadian Armed Forces), hospitals are non-profit corporations, or run by religious orders. It is not uncommon for a group of physicians to enter into a partnership, such as a walk-in clinic, but--and here's the important part--they take all comers (assuming that their patient load allows), and they bill the government for services. I can go down to the walk-in clinic around the corner, show my Alberta Health card, and see any of their doctors any time. Or I can go to another walk-in clinic across town and do the same. No appointment necessary. Stating that "walk-in clinics are private" is rather like stating "the sky is blue," or "the sun sets in the west." Pretty much all medical practitioners and deliverers in Canada are private. They just bill the government for services rendered.
Once again, Sorel's ignorance shines through. My feeling is that having heard that "walk-in clinics are private," he or she has come to the conclusion that Canadians pay cash out-of-pocket in order to access a walk-in clinic, so they can avoid waits in being assigned a government physician (though, as I stated, no such things as assigned physicians nor government physicians exist), or waiting for hours in an ER. But that's not the case.
I'd suggest that we all look at it this way: if Canadians were unhappy with their healthcare, don't you think they'd be lobbying their elected representatives at both the federal and provincial levels, to change things? Perhaps strangely, they're not; and single-payer is such an important part of Canada that any politician who advocates for abolishing it, pretty much guarantees that he or she will never be elected . What Canadians are doing, is looking south, at all the "socialist!", "communist!" "free stuff!" crapola, and wondering what all the fuss is about.
There is so much wrong in Sorel's posts about Canadian healthcare that I didn't know where to begin. But I hope that I gave it a good shot.
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I have a friend who damaged her shoulder in Vero Beach Florida and was scheduled four months later for surgery.
Lucky for her she knows people in the medical field and as able to return to her previous home in south Carolina to get the surgery in a more timely manner.
Many orthopedists do have 3-4 months waiting time for surgeries. A torn rotator cuff is not a broken arm that needs to be set and secured with plates and pins. Apples to oranges here. I'm glad she was able to get the surgery but had it been an emergent situation - it would have been tended to immediately.
Course everyone with an injury thinks that theirs is the only one that counts.
Well, of course you'd choose to discount factual links and place a higher import upon your anecdotal offering while choosing to contribute to a thread that DOES state one system being better than another.
Good grief!
I did not discount your links.
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