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I don't mind referring to transgender by their preferred pronouns. I'll call Rupaul a "she" if that what he wants.
But what's changing is now everybody is being pressured to specify what their pronouns are. Some think it's no longer polite to assume what gender a person is so everyone should specify what "their pronouns" are. Look at people's Linkedin profiles. Regular folks are specifying their pronouns next to their title.
Nobody who is not transgender should be specifying their pronouns.
That's crazy. The whole world does not have to change to accommodate transgender people.
I am not going to wear myself out trying to keep track of the "pronouns" of every person I meet. If I can remember their name, that is pretty good, and quite frankly all the effort on this subject that I am willing to make.
Anyone who tries to insist that their "pronouns" be remembered and properly recited at all times needs to get professional help.
What is the percentage of Trans people in this country? 1 percent or less I think it is. Why is such a disparate amount of attention given to such a small sliver of American society, I mean I'm not mad about it, but it just seems odd to me. When politician do the my pronouns are thing it just feels silly and contrived, I'd probably believe it more coming from someone on street or whatever, but in real life most people aren't going around babbling about the pronouns they prefer.
I don't mind referring to transgender by their preferred pronouns. I'll call Rupaul a "she" if that what he wants.
But what's changing is now everybody is being pressured to specify what their pronouns are. Some think it's no longer polite to assume what gender a person is so everyone should specify what "their pronouns" are. Look at people's Linkedin profiles. Regular folks are specifying their pronouns next to their title.
Nobody who is not transgender should be specifying their pronouns.
That's crazy. The whole world does not have to change to accommodate transgender people.
Nobody should even be on LinkedIn. It was just another hairbrained social network contrivance, in this case that asked its users to build its business model around their spilling the contents of their Rolodexes and contacts. For public consumption. What? And its sign-ups are like, Duh, okay. It must be okay. Kewl.
And their reward is a free bio entry, for some of those inclined to publications like Who's Who.
Last edited by eastriver; 02-18-2020 at 02:35 PM..
Have you all noticed that everybody, especially academics, are now specifying what their "pronouns" are - even normal heterosexual non-transgender people.
e.g "So and so is a Phd in ethnic studies, and his pronouns are he/him/his"
WTF?!
This is not something that people ever did before. This LGBT madness is out of control and has got to stop.
Academia no longer use gendered language like boyfriend or girlfriend. It's now partner. Likewise do husband and wife.
I'm failry liberal in comparison to this site and I recently sat in a sensitivity training session for a college. When the topic of using they, them or 'it' came up I put my foot down. I told the trainer that I would respectfully address someone by their position or relationship to my jo- professor, student, 'end-user,' visitor, etc but that referring to someone as them or it would have gotten me beaten by my parents- my mother in particular. She even acknowledged that those particular pronouns would be fairly disrespectful in a number of settings.
And yet if someone requests to be referred to as "they," it is far more disrespectful to refuse.
I work in a college and have a student who is nonbinary. They use "they" pronouns (and are why I tell people my pronouns - they said that I was the only person they interviewed with for an on-campus job and while they got 6 offers, they chose to work for my office as a result). It was a little weird to wrap my mouth around the first few times I said it, but now it's fine. They would have known I was being deliberately disrespectful if I insisted on referring to them either by name or by their title when I do that with no one else in my office.
It was almost two years before I knew what gender they were assigned at birth - their name is gender-neutral and their appearance, voice, and demeanor are all very androgynous. It doesn't matter to me. What matters is they are one of the hardest working, most talented student workers I've had the privilege of working with. They were also the only student who followed my instructions to include a cover letter with their resume in their application. Positive attitude, willingness to learn, and ability to follow instruction is far more important to me than what gender they identify as.
Recently, a coworker who is in their 40s and has worked at my institution for almost 10 years requested that we use "they" pronouns. They had done so privately for many years, but seeing so many of us show our support by listing our own pronouns in email signatures or in meetings opened the door to allow them to bring that part of them to work. That's why it matters.
And yet if someone requests to be referred to as "they," it is far more disrespectful to refuse.
I work in a college and have a student who is nonbinary. They use "they" pronouns (and are why I tell people my pronouns - they said that I was the only person they interviewed with for an on-campus job and while they got 6 offers, they chose to work for my office as a result). It was a little weird to wrap my mouth around the first few times I said it, but now it's fine. They would have known I was being deliberately disrespectful if I insisted on referring to them either by name or by their title when I do that with no one else in my office.
It was almost two years before I knew what gender they were assigned at birth - their name is gender-neutral and their appearance, voice, and demeanor are all very androgynous. It doesn't matter to me. What matters is they are one of the hardest working, most talented student workers I've had the privilege of working with. They were also the only student who followed my instructions to include a cover letter with their resume in their application. Positive attitude, willingness to learn, and ability to follow instruction is far more important to me than what gender they identify as.
Recently, a coworker who is in their 40s and has worked at my institution for almost 10 years requested that we use "they" pronouns. They had done so privately for many years, but seeing so many of us show our support by listing our own pronouns in email signatures or in meetings opened the door to allow them to bring that part of them to work. That's why it matters.
It's seems like you were conditioned to accept something that you initially thought was ridiculous.
Only people who are LGBT should be specifying their pronouns. If you are the gender that you appear to be, there is no reason to specify your pronoun. This is a trend that is growing. And if people such as yourself continue to do this out of solidarity with trans people, soon it will be considered customary and all professionals will be expected to do it.
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