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Old 02-20-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The WALL scares the liberals more than anything else. It's simple, it's effective, (although not 100% - before someone jumps in with that argument), it keeps people out who don't belong here. It's permanent. It makes a statement. It's a win for Trump, whether he gets 2,000 miles of it built or whether he gets 100 miles built. Whatever he gets done is exactly that much more than another other candidate of either party would have completed.

 
Old 02-20-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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The WALL scares the liberals more than anything else. It's simple, it's effective, (although not 100% - before someone jumps in with that argument), it keeps people out who don't belong here. It's permanent. It makes a statement. It's a win for Trump, whether he gets 2,000 miles of it built or whether he gets 100 miles built. Whatever he gets done is exactly that much more than another other candidate of either party would have completed.
Well since Mexico is paying for it, I dont care. But it is not effective.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 09:59 AM
 
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Yes, I agree. SO arrest their employer, or actually a few employers and make sure it is on the news. Boom. No jobs. Not going to prison trumps profit.
Including individuals who hire them to clean their houses and now their lawns, right?
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:04 AM
 
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Including individuals who hire them to clean their houses and now their lawns, right?
Yes, every one that aids them breaking the law/
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:06 AM
 
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Well since Mexico is paying for it, I dont care. But it is not effective.
This again? How many times do we have to tell you liberals that Mexico will pay through tariffs and even if they don't putting out $25 billion for a wall is far cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us. Were you equally upset back in 2006 when the Secure Fence Act was passed with both Obama and Schumer's signatures on it and it was soley the taxpayer to fund it? The problem was that 700 miles of it was merely fencing that could be breached instead of the good physical barriers that were promised so it was a waste of the taxpayer's money as now we have to fix it.

Not effective, huh?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/586853001/

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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This again? How many times do we have to tell you liberals that Mexico will pay through tariffs and even if they don't putting out $25 billion for a wall is far cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us. Were you equally upset back in 2006 when the Secure Fence Act was passed with both Obama and Schumer's signatures on it and it was soley the taxpayer to fund it? The problem was that 700 miles of it was merely fencing that could be breached instead of the good physical barriers that were promised so it was a waste of the taxpayer's money as now we have to fix it.

Not effective, huh?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/586853001/

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
Exactly! We would make back the entire expense for the wall in three months.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:11 AM
 
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Border Patrol doesn’t get the credit they deserve. Thankfully Trump is giving them the funding, tools, and equipment they need (the wall) to effectively do their jobs. I hate seeing them being attacked from the people they protect.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:13 AM
 
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Why did Obama discontinue the raids? Was he trying to protect businesses who hire illegals, or the illegals themselves? Either way, not good.
Part of the reason was because some so-called immigrant rights groups complained that it separated families and we all know that the Democrats don't want to upset their Hispanic voting base. So in essence Obama was protecting the illegals themselves.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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I have not seen a corporate official being arrested in the news in I dont even remember, certainly not since Trump has been elected, if you have links of Trumps administration arresting corporate execs for employing illegals I would like to see it.
Here ya go!

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/3-wa...llegal-workers

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tree-co...llegal-hiring/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/u...secutions.html
 
Old 02-20-2020, 10:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Conditions at most Border Patrol facilities in Arizona are punitive and unconstitutional, a U.S. judge in Arizona said Wednesday while ruling in favor of migrants who have long-complained about inhumane and unsanitary conditions in holding cells.

The order makes permanent a preliminary injunction that U.S. District Court Judge David C. Bury issued in 2016 requiring the Tucson Sector to provide clean mats and thin blankets to migrants held for longer than 12 hours and to allow them to clean themselves.

https://apnews.com/c0a7e0d72e60d0c347877d46863514bf

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