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Old 02-19-2020, 09:46 PM
 
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Most Congress Critters don’t know squat about healthcare or insurance. Congress did not cincieve of or write Medicare in 1965. Congress did not conceive of or write Medicare Part D- medications.

It has to come from the Administration who has the resources and funds to develop it. Congress reacts to it and may make changes but they are not capable of writing it.
Hell, Trump didn't even know the national healthcare system was complicated. who knew? Bernie is right about this one.
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Republicans would repeal Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security if their voters didn’t use those programs.

If the dangers of smoking were discovered today, Republicans would oppose banning cigarette advertising.
The Bush Admin wrote Medicare Plan B- Medications. The Bush Admin enhpjoyed a Republican majority in both chambers. It was at that time Congress denied Medicare the ability to negotiate / regulate prescription drug prices and rationalized doing so with the assumption that private insurers/ benefit managers could do a better job than Health & Human Services.

Those 65 and over are more likely to vote Republican. Medicare and Social Security is not going away.
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:52 PM
 
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Why ban prescription drug television advertising? How else are you going to learn what drugs are available? On an anonymous Internet forum?

What's the difference between a Ford and a Chevy? Advertising tells you the difference. Marketing and competition are good things.
Yes, they should be banned because they advertise their pills to make money off people like you who see their commercial and say "I need that". If you want info on drugs then go to sites like the Mayo clinic.
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Insurance company lawyers/officials wrote Obamacare.
In part. Who better understands insurance than insurers?
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Only the wealthy can afford to pay for their healthcare. There are many who work paycheck to paycheck who just can't afford it. Some prescriptions can cost $1000 or more. Hospital stays are extremely expensive. And they nickle and dime you for everything. Bring your own advil and ban aids because they will be added to your bill. Cancer treatments are expensive. All medical care is expensive. How can people afford it out of pocket while still paying their normal monthly expenses. The middle class and certainly not the poor has that kind of money in the bank.
Insurers reimburse hospitals at agreed upon rates. Your Summary of Benefits sho the PPO Discount, even if you have not met your deductible. The nicely/ dining ( unit cost accounting) is meaningless.

That 75% of us are overweight/ obese means as a population we are far more vulnerable to heart disease, stroke, Diabetes and its complications, some cancers and joint deterioration. We the people do not take responsibility for our own health.

Nearly one- third of us are Diabetic or pre Diabetic. It’s an epidemic. On average it costs nearly $10,000 a year to treat Diabetes and its complications. And insurance is picking up the lion’s share of it.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There is only one way for us not to pay for all the healthcare in the country, and that is push sick poor people to the curb. Very few will admit that is what they are actually saying. Right now we have a profit based system, we will eventually have to have a universal evidence based healthcare system. We really do now, we just do it the least scientific way possible. Profit. OH yea, March 2019. I been sick all week, I dont know what year it is.
Japan recognized that weight/ obesity was a major contributer to the cost of healthcare and decided to confront it. Everyone is subjected to an annual waist measure. Employers are required to measure their employees. Government assigns employers an annual goal to reduce average waist size by X. ( of corse pregnant women are exempt) if the business fails to achieve its goal, it pays more into the national sick fund.

And it’s working. The population is dropping the excess weight.

Over in Wales, a part of the UK, National Health System, elective surgery for obese people is a low priority.

In the mean time we here in the US get fatter every year and put pressure on the healthcare system that would not otherwise be necessary.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why ban prescription drug television advertising? How else are you going to learn what drugs are available? On an anonymous Internet forum?

What's the difference between a Ford and a Chevy? Advertising tells you the difference. Marketing and competition are good things.
Most of the rest of the world maintains physician - comprised comparative- effectiveness panels to evaluate how the patented medicine performs against an established generic and cost. Patients don’t see ads and don’t walk in asking their doctor for a specific brand. They don’t tell doctors how to treat cancer or heart disease and don’t spend what we do on medications.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Hell, Trump didn't even know the national healthcare system was complicated. who knew? Bernie is right about this one.
Bernie’s entire agenda is DOA in Congress, no matter the majority.

So much of his pitch would require the constitution to be amended. That requires 2/3 of Congress and then 2/3 of states to ratify it. It’s not going to happen and Bernie knows it.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:26 PM
 
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Bernie’s entire agenda is DOA in Congress, no matter the majority.

So much of his pitch would require the constitution to be amended. That requires 2/3 of Congress and then 2/3 of states to ratify it. It’s not going to happen and Bernie knows it.
While all healthcare plans are DOA without the same party controlling the House, the Senate, and the Presidency (and that’s part of why I posted the OP), you don’t need a Constitutional amendment for a healthcare plan.
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes, they should be banned because they advertise their pills to make money off people like you who see their commercial and say "I need that". If you want info on drugs then go to sites like the Mayo clinic.
The cost of advertising directly to consumers is baked into the price of the medication. Just one of the reasons why meds cost more in the US. Another reason is different strengths. 20 mg might be the most common dosage for XYZ in the US shike it’s only 10 mg , elsewhere. And often, 10 mg is effective.
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