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Old 02-20-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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yes, basic logic 101: correlation<>causation. OP forgets that the economy was still pretty bad leading up to the 2012 election. U6 unemployment was still in the 14-15% range. The stimulus had been one of the first acts by Obama in 2009. The stimulus was a dumb move that served mostly to boost the debt.

Now 'Cash for Clunkers'--that was a smart program by President Obama. I wish we could have a repeat of that with the advent of EVs. Get people to trade in their nasty old infernal combustion cars for EVs! How about that???!!!
Hmmmmm, U6?

 
Old 02-20-2020, 02:34 PM
 
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ARRA was an absolute disaster. Remember those shovel ready jobs and high speed rail?

This is as dumb as saying the new deal got us out of the depression.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 02:37 PM
 
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This is as dumb as saying the new deal got us out of the depression.
Oh no...you di'int.

Did you just speak truth that challenges one of the four pillars of liberal faith? In 2020? On a public forum?

Are you trying to end up on a terrorist watch list or something? You can only ever have fact based conversations about FDR's horrid economic policies in secret hideouts AFTER you've done a sweep for electronic listening devices.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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ARRA was an absolute disaster. Remember those shovel ready jobs and high speed rail?

This is as dumb as saying the new deal got us out of the depression.

Like Obama, FDR prolonged the economic suffering. It took WWII to get us out of the Great Depression. It took Trump to get us out of the Economic MALAISE of Obama. It was a big reason Hillary lost.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...8#12002bf968b7

Remember when we had a real President who knew what he was doing, and surrounded himself with actual experts instead of lackeys, shysters, con artists and family members?

I do.
I don't. Obama's boondoggle was a horrendous waste of money. The economy recovered in spite of it, not because of it.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...8#12002bf968b7

Remember when we had a real President who knew what he was doing, and surrounded himself with actual experts instead of lackeys, shysters, con artists and family members?

I do.
This is a joke right? He mines the pockets of his donors, shipped jobs overseas, shutdown manufacturing and coal, out millions and millions on welfare and told them it was a vacation.. what a **** show.. he should be in prison.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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This is a joke right? He mines the pockets of his donors, shipped jobs overseas, shutdown manufacturing and coal, out millions and millions on welfare and told them it was a vacation.. what a **** show.. he should be in prison.
You are clearly misinformed, and that is the intended result of rightwing propaganda.

Fill the vacuum with disinformation.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 06:45 PM
 
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"Democrat" is not an adjective.
Correct. It is a pejorative. LOL
 
Old 02-20-2020, 07:14 PM
 
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You are clearly misinformed, and that is the intended result of rightwing propaganda.

Fill the vacuum with disinformation.
Well.... Nobody here believes anything you said and the party you are attempting to insult as a rebuttal was 100% correct about the hapless community agitator. That money ended up in pockets of political hacks.
 
Old 02-20-2020, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Well.... Nobody here believes anything you said and the party you are attempting to insult as a rebuttal was 100% correct about the hapless community agitator. That money ended up in pockets of political hacks.
You know not what you speak.

In fact, you are so hyper partisan as to be rendered impotent.
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