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Old 02-20-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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As a Canadian who grew up with Medicare For All, I can’t understand for the life of me why Americans are so afraid of such a system. Canadians cherish their system and feel sorry for Americans, especially the working poor who lack access to affordable healthcare. The same goes for every other developed country, they feel sorry for Americans.

And let me add, if America had such a great healthcare system, why is there such a strong political opposition to it? You don’t see this in other developed countries, there is no political movement to further privatize their systems and take away public funding. They look at what’s happening in the U.S and they want nothing to do with it. I know this as a Canadian and from having family in Europe.

America stands alone in the world when it comes to lack of affordable healthcare to its citizens.

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Old 02-20-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z2X...&feature=share

As a Canadian who grew up with Medicare For All, I can’t understand for the life of me why Americans are so afraid of such a system. Canadians cherish their system and feel sorry for Americans, especially the working poor who lack access to affordable healthcare. The same goes for every other developed country, they feel sorry for Americans.

America stands alone in the world when it comes to lack of affordable healthcare to its citizens.

It's unreal.

I live in the northern part of the states and have been across the border many times. I've developed a lot of friendships with people up there and I WOULD laugh at how often I hear Americans talk about how terrible the healthcare up there is, if it wasn't for the fact that that fear and ignorance is perpetuated by the people who make money off of our healthcare so that Americans will oppose Medicare for All.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I’ve been wanting to watch this, thanks OP, will when I’m off work.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:43 PM
 
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The argument against it is ideological, not actually about policy or costs or quality of care. It's driven largely by 1) For profit insurance companies that stand to lose money and wall st that counts on them for profits 2) anti-government ideological zealots who see anything that benefits a collective or utilizes the state to improve quality of life as pure evil.

This forum is jam packed with "#2s", pun intended. They cherry pick some stats to try to sway peoples opinions, but the bottom line is that even if presented with 100% definitive proof that this is better policy that would cut cost and improve care, they are fundamentally opposed to it because of anti-government ideology.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:00 PM
 
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This is very logical and reasonably argued which means it will persuade no one who opposes Medicare for All.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:03 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I watched it and he doesn't really address things with hard specifics fact based things, it seems. It covered three areas of people's concerns and again, didn't feel like solid proven answers, my take away was why not try it and see, really.

I feel for the lady that had to select between her medications. I think something needs to be done, but going to full blown government medical for end to end care and coverage doesn't seem all that great to me.

If we follow some of the Nordic countries for examples to sorta look at see what works for them. My understanding it that their systems are a mixture of still basically private and some government. I think that we need to sorta look across various nations and cherry pick to get some ideas about what works and what doesn't.

I also do think that there is a vested interest by many parties to keep the status quo. That needs to be addressed too.
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Old 02-20-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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My favorites are the people that say they don't trust government to run their Healthcare while simultaneously voting for the same representatives over and over because they have an R next to their name on the ballot.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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My favorites are the people that say they don't trust government to run their Healthcare while simultaneously voting for the same representatives over and over because they have an R next to their name on the ballot.
Or D. Whichever.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Holy sh*t, there is an insurance company in Utah that flies its patients down to San Diego and then takes them by private car to a pharmacy in Tijuana, and it is still cheaper than just providing them their prescriptions here? In fact, it even awards a $500 bonus for doing this. What?

And Remote Medical Access, which used to provide free medical care in developing countries, now devotes 80% of its time and resources to the United States?

Houston, we have a problem.
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Old 02-20-2020, 07:15 PM
 
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My favorites are the people that say they don't trust government to run their Healthcare while simultaneously voting for the same representatives over and over because they have an R next to their name on the ballot.
So they shouldn't vote? What a dumb take what does this even mean. Those two things are unrelated.
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