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Old 02-21-2020, 09:54 PM
 
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In other words, you want all government to be privatized. If you want police and fire protection, you have to voluntarily pay for it. If you want to drive on roads and bridges you have to pay money to the private companies owning then. If you want to go to the lake or park, you have to pay to get in and so on for everything else. Enjoy for as long as your money lasts.
So forcing other people at gunpoint to pay for your expenses is your great idea?
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:20 PM
 
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That’s easy. Abolishing all government regulations and no business would ever have a need to bribe any politicians.
As long as government exist, big business will bribe politicians for kickbacks, crony contracts, bail outs and sweet deals. Heck, many of the business wrote the regulations.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:46 PM
 
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As long as government exist, big business will bribe politicians for kickbacks, crony contracts, bail outs and sweet deals. Heck, many of the business wrote the regulations.
For what purpose if the government is not allowed to regulate business?
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Old 02-22-2020, 04:41 AM
 
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The government needs to ease the restrictions on practicing medicine to allow NPs, PAs and others to diagnose and treat simple and common conditions.
They do. For 2 years I never saw my "doctor", I always saw the PA.
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Old 02-22-2020, 04:42 AM
 
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This is why Medicare for all is supported by 70% of the American people.
"You can fool SOME of the people ALL of the time!"
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Boston
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We all have a need for health care, it is a basic human need at certain points in our lives.

Your act like you are not in need of the service is just that, an act, a false perception even.
I agree, that's why I pay for a plan to provide for my healthcare.
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:28 AM
 
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This is why Medicare for all is supported by 70% of the American people.
With those numbers, participation and funding can be voluntary.
And if its works out as planned, the other 30% will want in on it, no laws needed.

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Old 02-22-2020, 06:45 AM
 
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Same failed assumptions and methodology that lead to the infamous book "The population bomb".

In simple terms, Bob is driving down a road towards a cliff at 60mph but the road bends to the right before that.
Clearly, the trajectory Bob is on will lead him to continue driving straight and thus fly off the cliff to his death.

In this case, as demand grows for services and there is declining or static supply there will be a large number of remedies to the situation that will all be put into effect to some extent.

-incentives for more people to either work more or enter the profession.
-increased use of less skilled people and technology which we already see in on-line as well as "minute clinic" type settings.

That's just two big ones, we could probably name 20+ if we tried.

The whole premise of the thread is ridiculous fear mongering and requires no free market reaction with lots of money to be made.
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Old 02-22-2020, 08:45 AM
 
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The government needs to ease the restrictions on practicing medicine to allow NPs, PAs and others to diagnose and treat simple and common conditions.
NPs do much more than treat simple conditions now.
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Old 02-22-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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As long as government exist, big business will bribe politicians for kickbacks, crony contracts, bail outs and sweet deals. Heck, many of the business wrote the regulations.
Yep. Insurance industry lobbyists wrote Obamacare. And some wonder why it was so costly which absolutely decimated the middle class (who didn't get subsidies, by the way).

Insurers Poised to Win Big - LA Times
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