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Old 02-24-2020, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I'm sick and tired of hearing from these alarmists who want to ignore the will of the people and their elected representatives.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:04 PM
 
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Since Trump’s rise to the presidency matters of truth and journalistic integrity have been constantly assaulted and our free press has been intentionally undercut. The current White House derides and belittles authentic journalists and media organizations in the hope of undermining the credibility of the real press. At the same time it deliberately elevates those non-professionals who seek to destroy our social fabric with their bald-faced partisan lies, flattering phony presidential fluff and conspiracy theories. It appears you are one such gullible victim of this favored autocratic tactic from the demagogue you defend. I feel sorry for you as you promote the downfall of our democracy.
Only in George Orwell’s world could anyone confuse the mainstream media’s fake news as having an iota of journalistic integrity.

Lets take a quick review .....

During the campaign, then Candidate Trump suggested that Trump Tower may be “bugged”. The media went on a frenzy attack, labeling the claim a crazy conspiracy theory, and calling into question Trump’s mental health! Fast forward, and we later discover that Trump was indeed under surveillance, and the operation running was far worse than just Trump Tower being electronically monitored. We now know that the FBI lied to congress, lied to the FISA Court, leaked classified material to the prostitute press, circulated rumors of hard irrefutable proof of Trump working with Russians .... all lies!

Then we have the Mueller investigation, and the deliberate targeting of individuals associated with Trump in a failed attempt to extort any one of them to offer testimony implicating Trump ...

Then we have the Ukraine hoax, with Schiff making up a totally false narrative about the conversation between Trump and the president of the Ukraine.

We have the gaggle if Obama moles on the NSC leaking classified material, and passing their biased opinions as facts .... Ambassadors and other “witnesses” who seem to believe that THEY are the ones that should be setting US foreign policy, rather than the President to whom they are supposed to answer to, and not answer for!

The biggest mistake Trump has made thus far is not cleaning house day one, and getting rid of all of these arrogant traitors early on.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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Do you think Trump has ever told a lie?
I don’t think there is anyone alive, and especially anyone that has ever been in elected office that has never lied.

Of course, its ok to lie if you are a democrat .... and God knows, the democrats have raised the art of lying to a whole new level of dishonesty.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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What bubble are your talking about?

I'm in reality, and in reality McRaven went off on some deranged rant over something that turned out to be untrue, leaving him looking like a complete jack*ss.






We are in complete agreement on this.
If you’re in reality, we’re in one hell of a shape as a country.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: United States
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If you’re in reality, we’re in one hell of a shape as a country.
I agree, a Naval Officer should have never gone on a deranged tirade, especially over something that was almost certainly going to be proven to be fake news.

It's a good thing that McRaven is no longer in a position of authority.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Carry on

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Uh-Oh. Someone slam dunked our resident cut-and-paster and upset him.
Wounded war vets get one vote. Their opinion counts for that much - one.
Live with it.


MAGA

McRaven is a solid guy and a combat veteran.

He recognizes what a weakling tRump is and sounds off.

Trumplings react with irrational bitterness.

Very predictable.

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Old 02-24-2020, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I agree, a Naval Officer should have never gone on a deranged tirade, especially over something that was almost certainly going to be proven to be fake news.

It's a good thing that McRaven is no longer in a position of authority.
McRaven and Kelly are no longer bound by Trump, there is nothing fake about Trumps lack of integrity. You should listen when someone with the stature of McRaven speaks but as usual even the admiral who brought down Bin Laden is reduced to be ignored and insulted.


If George Washington criticized Trump it would be fake news and there would be claims of TDS.
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Old 02-24-2020, 04:54 PM
 
Location: United States
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McRaven and Kelly are no longer bound by Trump, there is nothing fake about Trumps lack of integrity. You should listen when someone with the stature of McRaven speaks but as usual even the admiral who brought down Bin Laden is reduced to be ignored and insulted.

Let's break down McRaven's "stature ".

He spoke about a matter he knew nothing about, something that was almost certainly false, and did so in a deranged rant that ended up making him look like a fool.

McRaven set his reputation ablaze for something he should have known better to ever to get involved in.

In fact, if we were to start a new thread on here today about this story, "McRaven sets his reputation ablaze" would be the title.
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Old 02-24-2020, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Let's break down McRaven's "stature ".

He spoke about a matter he knew nothing about, something that was almost certainly false, and did so in a deranged rant that ended up making him look like a fool.

McRaven set his reputation ablaze for something he should have known better to ever to get involved in.
Only among Trumplings, who see all combat vets who speak up against their orange chickenhawk as "traitors."

Very strange take on patriotism.

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In fact, if we were to start a new thread on here today about this story, "McRaven sets his reputation ablaze" would be the title.
So, go ahead and start that thread.

Meanwhile, the majority of America knows the "rest of the story."

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Old 02-24-2020, 06:51 PM
 
Location: United States
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Only among Trumplings, who see all combat vets who speak up against their orange chickenhawk as "traitors."

So, go ahead and start that thread.




It's not that he spoke "against" President Trump that made him look like a fool.

It was the fact that he went on a deranged rant over something that he knew nothing about, and should have known would almost certainly end up being proven false.

McRaven throw away any good judgment to play to a deranged audience, only to end up making an unforced error, and looking like a complete jack*ss.

The people that piled on in this thread equally look like jack*sses.

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