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Why would people be outraged about the deficit getting smaller while Obama was in office?
It only got smaller due to Democrats losing the power of the purse. Republicans took over and eventually ended the trillion dollar deficits the Obama years were known for. They still didn't do enough, managing only to get back down to 400 billion or so in deficits, but Democrats cried about it the whole way accusing them of killing people with relative responsible policy.
I wonder what would happen if some legitimately fiscally responsible policy was enacted?
In all fairness, in your hypothetical of a Sanders presidency, Trump’s deficits will seem like nothing compared to Medicare for all, and free college for all.
But maybe at least ordinary citizens will benefit, instead of money just going to the 1%?
It only got smaller due to Democrats losing the power of the purse. Republicans took over and eventually ended the trillion dollar deficits the Obama years were known for. They still didn't do enough, managing only to get back down to 400 billion or so in deficits, but Democrats cried about it the whole way accusing them of killing people with relative responsible policy.
I wonder what would happen if some legitimately fiscally responsible policy was enacted?
Actually it’s because the economy improved. Also, Obamacare was on the books helping lower the deficit.
But maybe at least ordinary citizens will benefit, instead of money just going to the 1%?
1%? If you are part of the 56% that pays income taxes, you will be paying for your own health care as well as the 44% that don’t. I think the 56% are going to realize that, as Bernie comes closer to becoming the nominee. That is why I don't think Bernie has a chance of winning. Then where is the money for free college going to come from?
1%? If you are part of the 56% that pays income taxes, you will be paying for your own health care as well as the 44% that don’t. I think the 56% are going to realize that, as Bernie comes closer to becoming the nominee. That is why I don't think Bernie has a chance of winning. Then where is the money for free college going to come from?
Actually it’s because the economy improved. Also, Obamacare was on the books helping lower the deficit.
LOL, do you really think it was long enough ago to where you can outright lie and have people believe it? Spending was cut, it was a huge ordeal, that's what led to the deficits decreasing.
IMO it wasn't cut nearly enough, so we still had 400 billion dollar deficits, but compared to the 1.6 trillion dollar deficits Obama and the Democrats in the House were plaguing the country with, it felt almost like responsibility.
LOL, do you really think it was long enough ago to where you can outright lie and have people believe it? Spending was cut, it was a huge ordeal, that's what led to the deficits decreasing.
IMO it wasn't cut nearly enough, so we still had 400 billion dollar deficits, but compared to the 1.6 trillion dollar deficits Obama and the Democrats in the House were plaguing the country with, it felt almost like responsibility.
The deficit fell while congress passed continuing resolutions that spent the same as the prior fiscal year. The deficit fell because the economy improved.
The deficit fell while congress passed continuing resolutions that spent the same as the prior fiscal year. The deficit fell because the economy improved.
No, spending was cut. There were multiple tantrums about it from the president and Democrats in Congress accusing Republicans of killing old people or whatever simply because they injected a little bit of responsibility. A continuing resolution would not cut spending, it would continue the same increases from the previous year....so your talking points need work.
But maybe at least ordinary citizens will benefit, instead of money just going to the 1%?
Ordinary citizens will be the ones hardest hit. Where, exactly, do you think that $30+ trillion will come from? By definition, there aren’t enough people in the “1 percent” or even the “10 percent” to foot the bill. Ordinary citizens - the middle class - will be the ones hardest hit by Bernie’s health scheme, just like ordinary citizens - the middle class - were the ones hardest hit by Obama’s health scheme.
And yes, scheme is the appropriate word to use. Both depend on the ignorance of the average person, vague language and outright lies, and promises that are too good to be true to gain popular support. In actuality, Bernie’s scheme is worse than Obamacare. The ACA at least left some incentive for private businesses to continue providing quality health care. Anyone who understands how Medicare screws around with reimbursements knows that government run healthcare would be an absolute nightmare in the United States and would result in high taxes going to support a system that is mediocre at best.
Yes, other countries have managed government run healthcare somewhat successfully, but don’t pretend it is any more perfect than the traditional model. Nor do any of those countries with “good” socialized medicine have the population that the United States has. Something that works with a population of 70 million is exponentially harder to pull off when it has to work with a population of 300 million.
Bernie may or not be a true socialist, but his playbook comes straight from socialist regimes throughout history: convince the gullible, because they far outnumber the wise.
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