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Old 02-22-2020, 08:39 PM
 
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Isn't this the type of system some Americans are wanting?


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The NHS is often compared to a state religion. Like the medieval church, it relies on blind faith to elicit taxes and to refuse reformation. On its 70th birthday last year, it congratulated itself on 90% of Britons supporting it and 77% wanting no change. Anyone who dares attack the NHS will suffer eternal damnation.

Yet no other European country has copied the NHS model in half a century...

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Old 02-22-2020, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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No. Doctors in the UK work for the NIH. Medicare for All is insurance, but doctors will not be government employees. The Affordable Care Act is similar to the system in Germany, a mix of public and private resources.
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Old 02-22-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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My personal choice of a model would be Australia’s which has both public and private options. Everyone is covered by public healthcare but if you want different options or more coverage you can add private (usually via an employer benefit).
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Old 02-22-2020, 10:15 PM
 
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No thank you. Almost every dealing I've had with the government has shown how incompetent they are.
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Old 02-23-2020, 12:56 AM
 
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Isn't this the type of system some Americans are wanting?
The article is not arguing against universal healtcare, it is just calling for some changes in how it operates and further decentralisation.

The UK has a national health service for all, as well as private healthcare and most NHS Services are managed by local trusts rather than central government, and they are subject to regular inspection.

As for the Expensive US System, I don't think any country is looking to change to that health care model.

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Old 02-23-2020, 01:31 AM
 
Location: California
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No way.
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Old 02-23-2020, 01:33 AM
 
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Not at all. At least, no politician is pushing anything even close to this.
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Old 02-23-2020, 02:52 AM
 
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Michael Moore reports on the NHS.

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Old 02-23-2020, 03:59 AM
 
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My personal choice of a model would be Australia’s which has both public and private options. Everyone is covered by public healthcare but if you want different options or more coverage you can add private (usually via an employer benefit).

Which is basically the NHS system.
I find it hard to understand why people wouldn't want a health service that's free to everyone at the point of use, including free visits to doctors and virtually free drugs and treatment, prefering instead to cripple themselves financial with health insurance.
Beats me.
The system ain't perfect and at critical times like winter when people fall over a lot and there's flu about it can seem like everything is breaking down.
But trust me having to wait for a few hours in an non-emergency is find when it's free.
You have money and want to see someone instantly ? Fine,take out health insurance.
You'll get a nicer bed in a nicer hospital much quicker but the actual care and treatment you'll receive is exactly the same.
Often performed by doctors who work in both sectors ( if you earn money in the private sector as say a surgeon you're obliged to perform a certain number of NHS hours as well.They did,after all,train you in the first place. )

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Old 02-23-2020, 04:58 AM
 
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My personal choice of a model would be Australia’s which has both public and private options. Everyone is covered by public healthcare but if you want different options or more coverage you can add private (usually via an employer benefit).
Canada's system is like that, too. For example, some Canadian provinces don't cover prescriptions. You have to buy/earn a supplemental private insurance policy for that.
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