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Old 02-23-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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I guess in your mind making jokes and creating false analogies somehow lessens the need to actually address the question prompted in my original post.
You seem to not understand how progress works. I tried to explain it to you in an easy to understand analogy. When the automobile replaced buggies, where did the buggy makers go? They learned new skills and went along with progress. The same will happen to these millions of workers employed by insurance companies.

If you still can't understand why your OP is reflective of a Luddite mindset that's not my problem. Meanwhile, the world moves forward.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:42 AM
 
Location: On the road
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I'm posing a question. What do nearly 2 million people who worked hard in their lives to have mortgages, families, and contribute to their communities do once their job is eliminated and they become unemployed?



I find it unsurprising the selfish supporters of Sanders believe they have the right to joke about people's lives in the name of free handouts
They can train to be medical providers instead of insurance adjusters.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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You seem to not understand how progress works. I tried to explain it to you in an easy to understand analogy. When the automobile replaced buggies, where did the buggy makers go? They learned new skills and went along with progress. The same will happen to these millions of workers employed by insurance companies.

If you still can't understand why your OP is reflective of a Luddite mindset that's not my problem. Meanwhile, the world moves forward.

Technology disruption is a complete different topic versus the nationalized takeover of private industries. To draw a comparison between the two is naive and juvenile.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:46 AM
 
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They can train to be medical providers instead of insurance adjusters.
In other words, people who provide real value to patients and not merely suck them dry of all the healthcare dollars they possibly can without actually providing any healthcare. What a concept!
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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Technology disruption is a complete different topic versus the nationalized takeover of private industries. To draw a comparison between the two is naive and juvenile.
No, it's not. We have an archaic healthcare system in this country. It's time to upgrade it and move into the new century. And if you don't believe technology has radically changed the medical field in the last few decades you are misinformed. There are a lot of jobs being eliminated by technology every year. And more will come regardless of whether we have MFA or not.

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Old 02-23-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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Once again, "Jeff Bezos paid off all his Medicare/SS obligation at 2 seconds past midnight.

The rest of you stiffs are paying it off all year.

Can you figure what's wrong with this picture?

Hint: make Jeffy pay off his obligation on Feb 1 instead.

Put bluntly: raise the cap on SS/Medicare from $137,000 to $200,000 and you'll have the money to pay for universal Medicare.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:57 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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No, you’re misinformed.
Then contest the statement.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Put bluntly: raise the cap on SS/Medicare from $137,000 to $200,000 and you'll have the money to pay for universal Medicare.

Doing this does indeed solve the problems for social security. However, it doesn't pay for universal healthcare. Projections show if raising it to $300,000 in 2021, it would raise 1.2 trillion dollars. Still a far cry from what would be needed for Medicare.



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Old 02-23-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Once again, "Jeff Bezos paid off all his Medicare/SS obligation at 2 seconds past midnight.

The rest of you stiffs are paying it off all year.

Can you figure what's wrong with this picture?

Hint: make Jeffy pay off his obligation on Feb 1 instead.

Put bluntly: raise the cap on SS/Medicare from $137,000 to $200,000 and you'll have the money to pay for universal Medicare.
once again,


1. the "cap" is on SS, not medicare...IOW there is NO CAAP ON MEDICARE


2. raising/eliminating the cap on SS will also raise the top payouts for those that are rich... so eliminating or raising the cap will just cause SS to go insolvent faster
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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I'm posing a question. What do nearly 2 million people who worked hard in their lives to have mortgages, families, and contribute to their communities do once their job is eliminated and they become unemployed?



I find it unsurprising the selfish supporters of Sanders believe they have the right to joke about people's lives in the name of free handouts
Listen up Mr. Boolean. Expand your brain a bit. Just because I disagree with you, doesn't make me a Sanders supporter. The fact that you automatically assumed that means our discussion is likely not going any deeper than an inch or two.

So, in rebuttal "I are not Sanders supportor, and neener neener".
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