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Old 02-23-2020, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Medicare for All’s jobs problem



Bernie Sander's prances around this country talking about how Healthcare is unfair in the US. He exclaims that a single payer government monopoly will solve the problems and lower costs. Fact is that those "costs" are people and since it's a monopoly, 1.8 MILLION people will have jobs that are no longer needed. Who chooses who gets laid off? Who chooses were the new jobs are? They all go to DC?
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:25 AM
 
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Medicare for All’s jobs problem



Bernie Sander's prances around this country talking about how Healthcare is unfair in the US. He exclaims that a single payer government monopoly will solve the problems and lower costs. Fact is that those "costs" are people and since it's a monopoly, 1.8 MILLION people will have jobs that are no longer needed. Who chooses who gets laid off? Who chooses were the new jobs are? They all go to DC?
Why is there 1.8 million people with jobs that are not needed? That is a lot of tonsillectomies and cardiac caths. Oh the waste with our current system.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Why is there 1.8 million people with jobs that are not needed? That is a lot of tonsillectomies and cardiac caths. Oh the waste with our current system.

Because there are hundreds of private companies competing against each other?

Why do we have more than one bank when we can just have one and lay everyone else off? Why do we have more than one car company? Why do we have more than one computer chip maker?
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:29 AM
 
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Medicare for All’s jobs problem



Bernie Sander's prances around this country talking about how Healthcare is unfair in the US. He exclaims that a single payer government monopoly will solve the problems and lower costs. Fact is that those "costs" are people and since it's a monopoly, 1.8 MILLION people will have jobs that are no longer needed. Who chooses who gets laid off? Who chooses were the new jobs are? They all go to DC?
So ya dirty socialist you want them guaranteed jobs no matter how things change over time? Maybe we can also ban machinery on farms so that people can get those blacksmith and harness makers back up in employment numbers.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:30 AM
 
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Because there are hundreds of private companies competing against each other?



Why do we have more than one bank when we can just have one and lay everyone else off? Why do we have more than one car company? Why do we have more than one computer chip maker?
Free market has no business in healthcare.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:31 AM
 
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Oh sure you just prance in here and start a thread all prancing and whatnot.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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So ya dirty socialist you want them guaranteed jobs no matter how things change over time? Maybe we can also ban machinery on farms so that people can get those blacksmith and harness makers back up in employment numbers.

I'm posing a question. What do nearly 2 million people who worked hard in their lives to have mortgages, families, and contribute to their communities do once their job is eliminated and they become unemployed?



I find it unsurprising the selfish supporters of Sanders believe they have the right to joke about people's lives in the name of free handouts
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:40 AM
 
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I'm posing a question. What do nearly 2 million people who worked hard in their lives to have mortgages, families, and contribute to their communities do once their job is eliminated and they become unemployed?



I find it unsurprising the selfish supporters of Sanders believe they have the right to joke about people's lives in the name of free handouts
I am very capitalist at heart, it just doesnt work in healthcare. I was never a Bernie supporter until last night after a couple of Bell's two hearted (my first in a week damn flu) Bernie might get this nasty Trump taste out of our collective mouth. I know I would vote for Bernie if he ran against Trump.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Medicare for All’s jobs problem



Bernie Sander's prances around this country talking about how Healthcare is unfair in the US. He exclaims that a single payer government monopoly will solve the problems and lower costs. Fact is that those "costs" are people and since it's a monopoly, 1.8 MILLION people will have jobs that are no longer needed. Who chooses who gets laid off? Who chooses were the new jobs are? They all go to DC?
Sounds like you are defending the massive medical industrial complex. It employs 21 million people, most at high salary jobs. That is why healthcare is so expensive in the US - it is big business and a lucrative business.

The reality is that if we cut costs, that will result in the industry making less money and they will have to RIF some people. The affected businesses, probably Pharmaceutical companies will be one, will have to decide who to let go. I think Big Pharma can lose some salespeople and advertisers.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:42 AM
 
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Free market has no business in healthcare.
That is quite possibly the dumbest comment on the board.
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