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Old 02-23-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Tariffs are a tax. Taxes raise prices and higher prices lead to reduced demand which leads to less jobs.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:09 AM
 
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I dont understand the people that say they cant take a $2000 tax hike but they can take $7000 a year currently in private premiums, co-pays and deductibles. The $2k tax hike replaces the $7k premiums, co-pays and deductibles.

The whole point of Sanders New Deal agenda is that costs for basic stuff like health care and education is funded in a progressive way for the good of the nation. So no longer is the big shot earning $10 million a year paying the same $8000 a year for health care as the working class guy on $45 000 a year.

The reason most people feel squeezed is because the cost of health care, education and child care/pre-school is through the roof. And the squeeze will continue until we start funding it progressively through taxes.
Some will take a hit. Per Bernie’s own calculator the annual cost for me for medical insurance would rise 8K. In addition I’d get hit with another tax increase from his tax plan. Why does he says he’ll only tax the rich? I sure ain’t pulling in 10 million a year (or any million or even close to half a million) and yet my taxes/insurance cost would go up a LOT.

I guess Bernie is fine with the taxpayers footing all my bills in retirement since every dollar he plans to take out of my pocket would have gone to my retirement savings. Just like the 6K a year that Trump’s tax “decrease” is doing.

Politicians, please STOP trying to save me money. It’s not working.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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Almost as amazing as the bs you throw out. In September 2019 Moody’s estimated the tariffs had cost 300000 jobs
Moodys? haw haw haw.



Unemployment is lower than it has been in 65 years. Care to try again.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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Not that you shouldn't anyway, but if the burn job gets in you better hide whatever money you can and buy off the books or black market whervever possible, because he is gonna come looking for your cash and he isnt going to be joking.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Executive orders will rule the day. Same protocol as under Trump and Obama. Your precious Constitution be damned.

Blue's socialism will erase/alter Red's socialism.

Some constants will be nation building, armed robbery (what you folks call taxation), eminent domain, gun grabbing (building off Big Daddy Tariff's two major passages), drone strikes of brown babies, tariffs (like Trump with China, Obama on tires, Baby Bush on steel), and human trafficking at the border by the State (Obama and Trump caging folks).

Glorious times for the statists. For us freedom lovers? Not so much.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:15 AM
 
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Right on that. Now explain to Waldo how tariffs have actually cost American jobs while raising prices that 2.5 percent.
For high margin items the impact of tariffs are low.

If someone is manufacturing in China and only adding a small markup the impact will be higher.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:16 AM
 
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Whatever you call it, the Deep State, the Administrative State, the Bureaucracy, it functions autonomously now. Presidents can pull and tug at the periphery, but the reality is there can be no sudden or dramatic changes in policy.

Thomas Jefferson and Mao Zedong had something in common. Both believed that governments needed to be overhauled by revolution every other generation to clear out the dead wood and corruption. Until the American people realize (per the Declaration of Independence): “it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”, nothing will change.
Presidents really do not run the country, the lobbyists do.
Recall Pelosi saying we have to pass the bill to see what is in it?
It was an admission that the bill was already paid for by special interests.

Under Trump, Corporate and Banking Lobbyists have increased. If you want to attack the deepstate, those are who we should go after.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Moodys? haw haw haw.



Unemployment is lower than it has been in 65 years. Care to try again.
You prefer Forbes? Simply google “tariffs effect on jobs “ or take a macroeconomics 101 class. The tariffs have even reduced manufacturing jobs as can be seen by the manufacturing index. But keep sticking your head in the sand.

Less jobs, higher prices! Winning!!
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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Bernie want's a complete ban on fracking, he introduced a bill last month to have a total ban in place by 2025. This study shows the effect a ban would have on the US economy.

Job losses by 2025: 19,404,000
Loss of GDP: $7.11 trillion
Loss of household income: $3.73 trillion
Loss of tax revenue: $1.87 trillion
Cost of living increase per capita: $5,661

The price of oil will rise at least 145%, natural gas will rise 324%, electricity prices will quadruple due to the cost of gas, trade deficits will skyrocket, and its highly likely that manufacturing would be devastated, likewise the American steel and aluminum industries.
https://www.globalenergyinstitute.or...port_final.pdf
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Not that you shouldn't anyway, but if the burn job gets in you better hide whatever money you can and buy off the books or black market whervever possible, because he is gonna looking for your cash and he isnt going to be joking.
I'm looking forward to Team Red getting "Berned" on this one.

Worship your Federal Reserve, your crooked stock market, and your bailouts Team Red. The chickens will be coming home to roost.
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