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Old 02-23-2020, 10:15 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Bernie Sanders is authoritarian, and he is an admitted socialist. Where's the confusion?

4 years ago the talk was about how he was not a Democratic Socialist, he was really a Social Democrat.....now the talk is about how he's not a Communist just a Democratic Socialist. The truth is he was always a Socialist and Socialism is inherently authoritarian.
I saw a clip last night where he refused to answer someone who supported him. She didn’t support him in some else. Yeah authoritarian alright, it’s his view or else.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Please explain how you tied in UHC with open borders? I have not heard Bernie advocate for open borders. What is your problem with Universal Healthcare please explain?
Bernie is not for open border? So i guess you did not read some of his proposal legislations?

UHC has everything to do with open border.

Think of UHC is an apple pie. You share your pie with your family consists of 5 people. Now you take that same pie and share it with 3 more strangers + family. How much pie do you get?
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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On what planet?
Earth, where he says standing in line for food is a good thing.

If you desperately need a nanny, get one.

Those of us who don't need a nanny shouldn't be forced to have one just because you say you can't manage your life
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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Is Canada offering free healthcare for illegal immigrants? Asking for an amigo.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Eh... Bernie is center-left (Left-Libertarian, very similar to my own political leanings), which is sadly "radical" for US politics, being dominated by paleo-conservativism and quasi-fascism.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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What policies do you think would be ruinous for the US. Healthcare for all would be ruinous for you? How exactly?
Bernie would more than double federal spending and thus taxes, at the same time he'd push for decriminalizing illegal entry which would lead to even more spending and more taxes. The economy couldn't bear the strain. Other countries with similar health care systems are already feeling the strain that their tiny levels of illegal immigration cause, and none of them have anywhere near the problem the US does....a problem that Bernie would actively seek to make worse.

There are absolutely scenarios where a universal style healthcare system can work pretty well....the US is just not one of those scenarios.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Advocating for universal healthcare equals authoritation socialism?

Yeah, only in the bizarro world of US politics.


And hence why Bernie is so popular, because people are tired of the status quo and how broken and morally bankrupt it is.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I have heard him called a radical and a communist. Why exactly? In most other capitalist highly developed countires he would considered centre-right , or just centre. Pretty much just run of the mill. Universal healthcare does not mean your country will become communist. Its funny people that say they don't want a socialist healthcare system yet they send their kids to public schools.

Why are some people so against public health care? Taxing big corporations is world of differnce than saying no corporations or the government is taking them over. Why do people resosrt to these really weird attacks calling Bernie a radical communist etc etc??? Its so bizarre. Why is America still so reactionary? It almost seems stuck in the cold way 1950s.



The Left has been on a mission for over a decade now to drag far left ideology towards the center and try to pass it off as moderate.

They've failed.


Bernie is labeled an extremist .... because he is.

His policies require taxing the bejesus out of the well off in America to have any chance of actually being feasible...... and then attacking the system that allows people he wants to tax to become rich in the first place.

It's why Socialism will always fail.

Sooner or later, the snake ends up running out of tail to eat.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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Eh... Bernie is center-left (Left-Libertarian, very similar to my own political leanings), which is sadly "radical" for US politics, being dominated by paleo-conservativism and quasi-fascism.
Lots of libertarians honeymoon in the USSR. It's a center-left thing to do.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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Eh... Bernie is center-left (Left-Libertarian, very similar to my own political leanings), which is sadly "radical" for US politics, being dominated by paleo-conservativism and quasi-fascism.
There's literally nothing libertarian about Bernie. Libertarianism and Socialism are incompatible.
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