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LOL, to think Russia's main concern is about oil is naive.
It is already an established fact Russia tried to interfere in the 2016 election to help Trump.
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Originally Posted by momonkey
Source?
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Originally Posted by bpollen
The Mueller Report. It's on the internet. You didn't read it, apparently.
This is a given. It's been proven ten fold. No one w/half a brain denies it with a straight face. It's there in the report...documented.
It's happening again. Actually, it never stopped because Trump took office, which ended attempts to stop it. With McConnell's help.
Russia also attempted hacking election systems in over 17 states (it may have been over 20). The govt says it wasn't successful, but no one knows for sure. It wouldn't be that hard. It'd just have to hack a couple of key districts in a purple state, like PA, and Trump would win in a close race. That's what I think happened, but that's not proven.
The govt sent messages to all the affected states before the election, telling them about the hacking attempts & offering assistance, but most didn't want help from the fed. Many of the states aren't equipped to handle foreign govt hacking. So it's reasonable to assume that some districts in some states were hacked because of the states' inability to stop it. They wouldn't even know it.
The reason why I continue to ask for original sources is because I already know what those original sources are, what they claim and which of their claims have no evidence behind them.
The Mueller Report that you and JB007 try to hang your hats on also lacks credible original sources.
"In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that
Russian hackers had compromised its computer network."
The source for what is presented here as fact is the DNC and an investigative firm hired by the DNC.
Crowdstrike, the firm in question, also has no real evidence that Russia took the e-mails or that the e-mails were even stolen by someone without authorization to access the system.
Moreover, Crowdstrike has its own credibility issues...
"U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign."
Incidentally, one could easily refute the OP's claim by noting that, far more than Trump, Sanders would reduce US oil consumption compared to Trump by implementing all kinds of green policies such as increased gas mileage requirements, encouraging more electric vehicles, higher gas taxes, etc. So even if we accept the premise that US oil production under Trump would be higher than under Sanders, US oil consumption under Sanders would be lower than under Trump. In the end it would be a wash.
In fact, if US oil production were higher under Trump, that might depress world oil prices. Lower oil prices would hurt Russia's economy. And thus, a Trump presidency would hurt Russia.
A ban on fracking will cut American natural gas production by 65-75%, and force a 324% increase in the price of gas, which will at least quadruple electricity prices. When Donald Trump entered office, US oil production was at 8.9 million barrels a day, and is currently at 13 million, almost 3 million barrels higher than at any time in history. This huge increase has killed OPEC and Russian attempts to keep oil prices high. A fracking ban will cut US production by 7-8 million barrels a day, and drive oil up at least 145% to more that $130 a barrel.
The OP is exactly right, a fracking ban in the US would be a dream come true for the Russians,and Saudis, oil being 54% of Russian exports, and 78.6% of Saudi exports. On top of that, it would devastate the economy, as this study shows.
Job losses by 2025: 19,404,000
GDP losses: 7.11 trillion
Household income losses: 3.73 trillion
Tax revenue losses: 1.87 trillion
Cost of living increase per capita: $5,661 https://www.globalenergyinstitute.or...port_final.pdf
A ban also gives the Russians more influence over our European allies, as they will no longer have the option to buy American LNG instead of Russian gas.
If the Russians want to weaken the United States, there's no better way to do it than helping Bernie get elected. He'll do all the damage for them.
A ban on fracking will cut American natural gas production by 65-75%, and force a 324% increase in the price of gas, which will at least quadruple electricity prices. When Donald Trump entered office, US oil production was at 8.9 million barrels a day, and is currently at 13 million, almost 3 million barrels higher than at any time in history. This huge increase has killed OPEC and Russian attempts to keep oil prices high. A fracking ban will cut US production by 7-8 million barrels a day, and drive oil up at least 145% to more that $130 a barrel. ....
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007
Incidentally, one could easily refute the OP's claim by noting that, far more than Trump, Sanders would reduce US oil consumption compared to Trump by implementing all kinds of green policies such as increased gas mileage requirements, encouraging more electric vehicles, higher gas taxes, etc. So even if we accept the premise that US oil production under Trump would be higher than under Sanders, US oil consumption under Sanders would be lower than under Trump. In the end it would be a wash.
In fact, if US oil production were higher under Trump, that might depress world oil prices. Lower oil prices would hurt Russia's economy. And thus, a Trump presidency would hurt Russia.
Why would they want a Democrat to win. Gee...what party stated they would ban hydraulic fracturing, end offshore oil production, ban drilling on federal lands, institute carbon taxes and even prosecute oil executives. Basically ending America’s energy independence.
But oh no according to you lefties..Trump is Putin’s real stooge...”Right Comrade”
Why would Putin need a Democratic to win? His stooge does everything he wants him too.
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