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Old 02-23-2020, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Freeing nonviolent drug offenders is not radical.

Legalizing marijuana is not radical.

Quite true. The deeply Christian conservative state of Oklahoma has been freeing hundreds of people from prison in there for drug possession.

More state will be legalizing marijuana this year after a number of states have been leading the way.

 
Old 02-23-2020, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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democrats had their shot at it with "we have to pass it so you can see what's in it".....

They had the chance to ram anything they wanted through...just like they did
But as a Trump lover, don't you love Trump more for swiping money from the defense to build the wall, even though only Congress is supposed to do something like that?
 
Old 02-23-2020, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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So says the Socialist.
A living wage would set people free from having to be on welfare. Aren't you strongly opposed to government welfare because it's Socialism?
 
Old 02-23-2020, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It's more a case of NBC fearing that Bernie isn't electable vs. Trump considering that he's the front runner right now so they are throwing shade at him in the hopes of getting a more moderate Dem the ticket.

You gotta hand it to the Dems: while they didn't get a group of worse candidates than Hillary (because honestly, it's impossible to be worse than Satan herself) they certainly have come close with this clown show.
 
Old 02-23-2020, 11:45 PM
 
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We Democrats made the mistake of going with McGovern in 1972. Any one of us with a grain of sense in their head does not want to repeat that dismal history.Also, if Sanders is somehow elected POTUS he'll go down like Carter; ineffectual with Congress and foreign affairs. That put the GOP in the wilderness for 12 years; worse than the Nixon interlude. Either way it doesn't end well for an extremist choice.
McGovern in 1972 is probably to the right of any of this year's Democrats. And Trump.
 
Old 02-23-2020, 11:47 PM
 
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A living wage would set people free from having to be on welfare. Aren't you strongly opposed to government welfare because it's Socialism?
That's not socialism. There is no government in socialism. If there's a government it's something else.
 
Old 02-24-2020, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Well it’s a known fact that Chris Matthews is not smarter than a fifth grader.

He is like a lot of Democrats then.
 
Old 02-24-2020, 03:30 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The hacks at NBC really don't seem to like crazy Bernie. Now one of their pundits, says that Democrats may be be better off letting Trump win, than to let Bernie sanders take over the party.

It's a cold day in hell if Comcast/NBC suggests that Trump = Good.

MSNBC's Chris Matthews Suggests 4 More Years Of Trump Better For Dems Than Sanders Winning White House









(I believe I've posted before that establishment Democrats would rather see Trump win than Bernie take the party)


Saying cyanide is better than strychnine is hardly saying either one is 'good'.
 
Old 02-24-2020, 03:49 AM
 
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It’s not just crazy Bernie or the other weak candidates as the problem for the Dems.

America saw the democrat party’s pathetic and vulgar behavior at the State of the Union speech.
America experienced their drawn out Russia-collusion hoax, their weaponizing of our intel and DOJ, their sinister character assassination of Kavanaugh, and their pathetic impeachment hoax.

We are tired of their hatemongering, their ignorant socialist policies, their deep hypocrisy on so many levels, their divisiveness and victimization of everyone. Their party needs a serious reformation.....
 
Old 02-24-2020, 04:15 AM
 
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Here is a thought. Bush led to Obama and his policies frightened enough people that they tossed aside Hillary and took a chance on Trump. Trump has been a good President but the Left and their media hate him with a passion which has given to massive support behind the socialist Bernie. People want something different being tired of the same ol politicians but Bernie is so off the wall bonkers that I can't imagine who could top him in 2024 if he should win in November.



Obama beget Trump begets Bernie and then what? if there is anything left of the country...
Democrats need a large African American voter turnout, and they don't have it with Bernie.
Bernie has no chance of winning the Presidency.
In addition to that, polls indicate that Trump's African American approval rating has increased since 2016.
And Bernie's healthcare policy is too radical for older voters, so I'd say Trump will win a lot easier this year than he won in 2016.
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