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Old 02-25-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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Sanders is right. For all the negative things Castro has done, he has also done some positive things. Just like Hitler , who was a monster, but he also did some good things for the Germans, like building the Autobahn.

Yes, Castro and Hitler are/were terrible people, but some of their programs were aimed at helping their people.
You can't compare Castro to Hitler. Castro was indeed a dictator and someone I can't respect. On the other hand, Castro wasn't a genocidal maniac like Hitler. No doubt that about 11,000 people died under Castro's rule. Under Hitler, millions died within a decade. And Hitler did it because he wanted to get rid of Jews, and all other groups that he deemed racially inferior. Castro is no saint, and he was a bad man. Hitler, however, was much worse.
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Old 02-25-2020, 12:33 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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He didn’t wind up being better at all. He made it objectively worse. I don’t recall families risking their lives on tiny boats or tires or anything that floats to come to America across shark infested waters when Bautista was in power.
Because they did't need to, but they left all the same.

During the first three decades of the twentieth century, several crises in the international market for sugar and tobacco, as well as violent upheavals in the fragile Cuban republic, caused large movements of people to the United States. Emigration was substantially reduced during Gerardo Machado’s dictatorship (1924-1933) and the Great Depression. In the 1930s, the number of Cubans admitted to the United States declined to less than 10 000 persons. However, the Cuban tradition of sending political exiles to the north continued unabated. During the 1940s and 1950s, tens of thousands of Cubans sought better economic opportunities and political refuge in the United States. This is the period recreated in the semi-biographic accounts of Miguel Barnet, La vida real (1984), and Oscar Hijuelos, The Mambo Kings Play Songs of Love (1989). The migration of Cuban musicians, artists, and athletes was especially noteworthy. By 1958, about 40 000 Cubans lived in the United States, mostly in New York City. Out of nearly one million Cuban immigrants registered between 1869 and 1996, 258 494 or almost 27 percent arrived before 1960. Thus, the exodus had a history of almost one hundred years on the eve of the Cuban Revolution.

https://journals.openedition.org/plc/464?lang=en
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Old 02-25-2020, 12:36 PM
 
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You can't compare Castro to Hitler. Castro was indeed a dictator and someone I can't respect. On the other hand, Castro wasn't a genocidal maniac like Hitler. No doubt that about 11,000 people died under Castro's rule. Under Hitler, millions died within a decade. And Hitler did it because he wanted to get rid of Jews, and all other groups that he deemed racially inferior. Castro is no saint, and he was a bad man. Hitler, however, was much worse.
It's kind of like discussing which tastes worse, poop or pee. No matter what answer you come up with, if you find someone praising the flavor of either....you might want to avoid them.
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:04 PM
 
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Default There is two Cubas

The Two Cubas | I wonder which cuba bernie is talking about?? Free Healthcare? |
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Cuba has the worst human rights record in the western hemisphere. On the bright side, those '57 Chevys and Ford Fairlanes are pretty cool.
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Bernie should campaign in Hialeah, Miami-Dade, in a Che Guevara shirt.
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Old 02-25-2020, 03:26 PM
 
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Bernie has been in Washington his whole life and has done "NOTHING". His wife has that thing with college she was at. He does in fact endorse socialism! Yikes!
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Old 02-25-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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You can't compare Castro to Hitler. Castro was indeed a dictator and someone I can't respect. On the other hand, Castro wasn't a genocidal maniac like Hitler. No doubt that about 11,000 people died under Castro's rule. Under Hitler, millions died within a decade. And Hitler did it because he wanted to get rid of Jews, and all other groups that he deemed racially inferior. Castro is no saint, and he was a bad man. Hitler, however, was much worse.


maybe the difference in size between Cuba and Europe had something to do with it....
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Old 02-25-2020, 05:22 PM
 
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Apparently being anti-authoritarian and pro-literacy is a giant scandal now. These attacks get more pathetic by the day.

For the record, Obama basically said the same thing a few years ago.
Apparently being stupid enough to fall for Cuban propaganda and claiming they're great because the literacy rate went up when they murdered thousands of people and put people in prison for opposing them is not pathetic to some people in this country, but it's extremely pathetic to me. Kind of like thinking the Soviet Union bread lines were great because it meant the country cared for their people. Or that the train system was great because it had chandeliers and the Soviets told him the trains ran on time.

And yeah, I know Obama said the same thing.
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Old 02-26-2020, 04:49 PM
 
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Now if only Trump could be credited with doing some good during his autocratic reign. I mean if Castro and Hitler can be credited with some good things.....



Also of course Republicans expect Bernie to lie, they only respect liars. Even Lying Ted and Little Marco likes Treacherous Two-faced Trump.
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