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Right wing hyperbole. the railing against M4All is all about anti-government and anti-collective ideology. It is not about policy. The people doing the railing have no alternative but the status quo or BS like "buy across state lines, tort reform!!"
Health care is expensive because there are some people making profits off the system while providing "value" that could be provided for much, much less by the government.
Medicare is not socialized medicine. The wealthy will always have private options just as wealthy older Americans do today.
Exactly.
People need to be there to deflate these dishonest ideological driven arguments like the one you responded to. They are not based on facts and their only goal is to scare people away from changing something that needs a change.
I guess nurses and doctors want to be slaves because both the physicians and nurses national lobbies have endorsed Medicare for All.
How is that working out for the UK's system? Kids are just begging to study medicine.
UK doctors are migrating here, to the USA as fast as they can get a VISA.
There is a YUGE medical shortage in the UK. Canada too, is starting to feel the pain, of taxing for healthcare.... it is never enough.
If Healthcare is free for everyone, with Government paying for it like Medicare, the government is going to have to dictate pay for services.
Do you know why many many doctors do not service Medicare??? It does not pay the bills and overhead.
Squalor or bankruptcy!
Doctors and Nurses would have to be Government employees and not self employed.
Doctor's & Nurse's would become slaves of the State. Who in their right mind signs up for that?
Doctor and nursing shortages already plague the USA. But it is REALLY BAD in the UK for example and other socialized medicine nations.
Make Healthcare Free and enslave the Doctor's & Nurse's
What stops them from creating a "Union" and holding all of America Hostage to make us all pay what ever they want?
Everyone taxed 99% of all income and assets..... What happens then?
As a primary care doc in a low COL area, I could survive with Medicare alone.
Around 2011/12 CMS instituted some office primary care bonuses that kept me going. Medical office business overheads had grown for so long, where reimbursements never kept up. I would have otherwise retired in about 2012.
If docs are not paid a fair wage, many will buck the system and drag their feet.
Right wing hyperbole. the railing against M4All is all about anti-government and anti-collective ideology. It is not about policy. The people doing the railing have no alternative but the status quo or BS like "buy across state lines, tort reform!!"
Health care is expensive because there are some people making profits off the system while providing "value" that could be provided for much, much less by the government.
Healthcare was practically free, when the churches were the caregivers, all provided from donations to the church. Was healthcare a right then?
A right cannot be forced upon another person. It can only be consensual.
Force only happens in Authoritarian rule.
As a primary care doc in a low COL area, I could survive with Medicare alone.
Around 2011/12 CMS instituted some office primary care bonuses that kept me going. Medical office business overheads had grown for so long, where reimbursements never kept up. I would have otherwise retired in about 2012.
If docs are not paid a fair wage, many will buck the system and drag their feet.
It is very hard to find a doctor that takes Medicare patients here in a relatively big city. And those that do, only take a very limited number, or they would work at a loss. No walk-ins.
My wife was talking with a doctor recently and she said that she gives aid to people that don't have insurance and she actually prefers it. The doctor gives a reduced bill to the uninsured and she makes more money by doing that because she cuts out all the red tape and inflated fees that the insurance companies mandate.
It is ridiculous.
I have inlaws in Ireland and they have "free" health insurance but the care is not that good unless you opt to pay more and my wife has a cousin that was denied tests that would have shown her cancer early enough to treat it. Another relative with chronic pain was given pills but they never tested for the root cause. Is this what America wants?
Uh huh. The only people calling any UHC or Single Payer system of delivery "free" are Americans in a deliberate ploy to attach some form of repugnance to it while willingly accepting any and all free stuff their own government provides.
What America wants is a moot question; what you're going to get is just more of the same used to elevate their personal station, to wit: Those that can pay some will have some - those that cannot will not.
Meanwhile, Ireland far outstrips the U.S. in ALL aspects of healthcare performance but your wife's cousin's experience would of course be a better measure of an entire country's performance and if so, ALL those millions of Americans having NO pre-emptive healthcare whatsoever and dying with undiagnosed problems would have to be taken into consideration - er - wouldn't they?
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The only people calling any UHC or Single Payer system of delivery "free" are Americans in a deliberate ploy to attach some form of repugnance to it while willingly accepting any and all free stuff their own government provides. 
