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Honestly the fact that Trump & Co are trying so hard to downplay this is proof to me that it's a huge deal.
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Originally Posted by trobesmom
We have very limited information on the infected or the recovered as this administration doesn't really cotton to testing.
And there you are.
It's not a medical issue for some, it's just pure politics. Just another made up controversy which can be used to lay blame on political enemies. And this is the REAL danger out there. And it's being fueled by the MSM because they know they will eat it up no matter the true facts of the matter
It's not a medical issue for some, it's just pure politics. Just another made up controversy which can be used to lay blame on political enemies. And this is the REAL danger out there. And it's being fueled by the MSM because they know they will eat it up no matter the true facts of the matter
There are people that see politics in every facet of life. There's nothing you can do but ignore them.
You could say "hello" and they will find a political agenda behind it.
This administration has been dragged into this pandemic kicking and screaming, downplaying, putting out erroneous information. But thankfully when facts and science come to the fore and there is too much damage not to admit it, they can't keep doing that. However, we have already wasted a lot of time because of the incompetence. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...failure-123166
Fair to say that Trump tried to reduce the CDC's funding a few years ago. Congress blocked him and that was that. Beyond that, the reaction of the relevant government agencies would have been pretty much identical if Hillary Clinton were currently president. The CDC, FEMA and the rest had the game plan already written for a future pandemic long before Trump took office. They are executing that game plan.
What we already knew about this particular strain of the Coronavirus was that it's hard to detect and ridiculously well designed to spread. While docked in Japan, using the tests that Japan had on hand -- so nothing to do with the CDC in the USA, passengers on the Diamond Princess would test negative 3 times only to come out testing positive on the fourth try. There are confirmed cases of 27 days incubation with no symptoms, and people are contagious throughout the incubation period. The virus typically survives 9 days outside on surfaces and with more ideal environmental circumstances it can survive 19 days on surfaces.
There are two incorrect reactions to the situation:
1. Panic, running around screaming, "The end is nigh!! We're all gonna die!!" Panic in the streets. People beating each other to death for the last bottle of hand sanitizer. This scenario kills millions and millions of people independent from the disease, and probably increases the spread and death rate by a factor of 10.
2. Downplay to the point of doing absolutely nothing. Don't test anyone. If anyone is sick just send them home and tell them it's all in their head and there's nothing to worry about. This scenario probably multiplies the spread of the disease and the death rate from it by a factor of 10.
The Trump administration, while certainly not my favorite, are doing neither of these things. They need to project calm, therefore they are trying to project calm, but they are also taking the whole thing very seriously. The propaganda arm of the Democratic Party (aka the Mainstream Media) is largely guilty of option 1. They are causing widespread panic. They are boldly sailing on the USS Make **** Up when reporting on the Trump administration's response and possible mistakes. The MSM is going to get more people killed than anyone else. Meanwhile, if Hillary Clinton were in office, the government response would be identical. The only upside would be that the MSM would be falling all over themselves kissing her ass for "doing such a wonderful job" and probably not whipping up a panic in the population.
My point was, you stated this have nothing to do with POTUS. How can it not, when people in the country he is leading are dying from CV, and it's spreading everyday. My state of South Carolina probably will be on that list today. The Governor will be holding a press conference at 10:am this morning to address the public, they believe we have two possible cases here. Trump supporters just can't stand the fact that this is on his watch, but it is waht it is. People all across this country is watching how he deals with this. I can only imagine if this was Obama, the things you would be saying.
That's easy.
What was said about Obama's handling of H1N1?
I hardly remember people and the MSM freaking the hell out.
You aren't going to find any relevant medical information on a political blog. Especially when you can't even be bothered to say why that link has anything to with the real matter at hand. So just stop trying to legitimize it.
Fair to say that Trump tried to reduce the CDC's funding a few years ago. Congress blocked him and that was that. Beyond that, the reaction of the relevant government agencies would have been pretty much identical if Hillary Clinton were currently president. The CDC, FEMA and the rest had the game plan already written for a future pandemic long before Trump took office. They are executing that game plan.
What we already knew about this particular strain of the Coronavirus was that it's hard to detect and ridiculously well designed to spread. While docked in Japan, using the tests that Japan had on hand -- so nothing to do with the CDC in the USA, passengers on the Diamond Princess would test negative 3 times only to come out testing positive on the fourth try. There are confirmed cases of 27 days incubation with no symptoms, and people are contagious throughout the incubation period. The virus typically survives 9 days outside on surfaces and with more ideal environmental circumstances it can survive 19 days on surfaces.
There are two incorrect reactions to the situation:
1. Panic, running around screaming, "The end is nigh!! We're all gonna die!!" Panic in the streets. People beating each other to death for the last bottle of hand sanitizer. This scenario kills millions and millions of people independent from the disease, and probably increases the spread and death rate by a factor of 10.
2. Downplay to the point of doing absolutely nothing. Don't test anyone. If anyone is sick just send them home and tell them it's all in their head and there's nothing to worry about. This scenario probably multiplies the spread of the disease and the death rate from it by a factor of 10.
The Trump administration, while certainly not my favorite, are doing neither of these things. They need to project calm, therefore they are trying to project calm, but they are also taking the whole thing very seriously. The propaganda arm of the Democratic Party (aka the Mainstream Media) is largely guilty of option 1. They are causing widespread panic. They are boldly sailing on the USS Make **** Up when reporting on the Trump administration's response and possible mistakes. The MSM is going to get more people killed than anyone else. Meanwhile, if Hillary Clinton were in office, the government response would be identical. The only upside would be that the MSM would be falling all over themselves kissing her ass for "doing such a wonderful job" and probably not whipping up a panic in the population.
Not sure how the MSM is going to get people killed, but whatever. What does Hillary have to do with any of this? I'm talking about the ostrich approach by this administration. Even as recently as Wed. Trump felt his hunches were more correct than what the health community is saying. The only reason he is even talking about it at all is because he can't continue denying the facts. He is hating that this virus is interfering with his great economy and stock market meme.
Not sure how the MSM is going to get people killed, but whatever. What does Hillary have to do with any of this? I'm talking about the ostrich approach by this administration. Even as recently as Wed. Trump felt his hunches were more correct than what the health community is saying. The only reason he is even talking about it at all is because he can't continue denying the facts. He is hating that this virus is interfering with his great economy and stock market meme.
Hillary has much as Trump does with this virus. You are losing your mind over a virus that has killed 17 people and are perfectly fine with the Flu which has killed between 20,000 - 50,000. Why is that?
It's politics. Nothing else. Something else to fan the flames like Russians, little green men, you name it.
Fair to say that Trump tried to reduce the CDC's funding a few years ago. Congress blocked him and that was that. Beyond that, the reaction of the relevant government agencies would have been pretty much identical if Hillary Clinton were currently president. The CDC, FEMA and the rest had the game plan already written for a future pandemic long before Trump took office. They are executing that game plan.
Just so we are all working with the same premise, Trump tried to cut funding, and Congress prevented it.
There has been some negative stuff he has done that I consider pertinent, but I really think we should just look at where we are at the moment and going forward. What's done is done.
I'm hoping they will send out the tests soon.
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