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Old 03-08-2020, 07:35 AM
 
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The CDC wanted to specifically to advise the elderly and those with medical conditions not to fly. The Administration cut that recommendation, obviously for political reasons.

CDC was wrong. There is no end to it once you delve into telling people what specific activitie to do or not do. If you tell them not to fly on commercial airliners, do you also tell them not to attend baseball games, not to shop at busy stores, not to play slots at casinos, not to take cruises, not to attend family reunions, etc.? The right thing to do is to advise people to stay at home and avoid large groups of people and let them interpret that to their specific activities.

 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:36 AM
 
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BS. President Trump restricted travel from China a month before the news became prevalent.

Russia!Russia! Russia! Corona! Corona! Corona! Anything! Anything! Anything!
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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Have some facts.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...34209516752896
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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BS. President Trump restricted travel from China a month before the news became prevalent.
Incorrect. The news was widespread by the time he suspended flights from China.

But he never suspended flights from Italy, which has a huge outbreak. Many of the new positives in the USA are from people which traveled to Italy and brought Coronavirus back from Italy.
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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Dang. I really thought that people understood you can get COVID-19 by touching your face with hands that have come in contact with the virus. Hence all of the recommendations about washing hands frequently and the mad hoarding of hand sanitizer. Most of us, when we touch our faces do so to rub our eyes or noses. or put something in our mouths. If you literally just touch the skin on your cheek or chin or forehead the virus just sits there waiting for you to rub it into your eyes or nose.

My original post. Note you did not quote the qualifying part of my statement.

To be even more specific: a mask will not help if there are droplets of secretions containing SARS-CoV-19 on the mask, you touch the contaminated part of the mask when you remove it, and then you touch your face, i.e. your nose, mouth, or eyes, with the unwashed hands that touched the mask. That mask will indeed do absolutely nothing to protect you.

Lots of ifs in there. The point is the mask helps because without the mask blocking those droplets you definitely would have been contaminated. By wearing the mask you reduced it to a possibility of being contaminated. You act like one is going to instantly drop dead if one scratches their nose. What is your point? That because there's a chance someone will handle the mask wrong resulting in a chance that that they become infected then wearing masks is of no value to anyone?



I have no issue with you giving guidance on the proper way to use masks. It's really not that complicated.
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Our own Pilgrim's Progress may have suggested the answer:

It could be but it probably is something else. Children get cororna virus disease far, far more than adults. These are the seemingly endless childhood colds, sniffles, coughs every parent has experienced. One theory is that the frequent colds have sort of sharpened their immune systems toward corona viruses and thus they are able to quickly toss off covid-19.
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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I had this virus in early January.

I suspect it came here over the Christmas Holiday (I work on a public transport line to the airport in a major city).

I suspect this is the reason for the lackluster response, they know it is here anyway and they can't do anything to stop it.

I suspect the goal now is to avoid panic until the weather warms up and their reporting seems to be based to do that.

I suspect China did not tell anyone until they absolutely had to and it was too late.
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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I woke up with a hangover. Trump's fault.
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:56 AM
 
Location: 49th parallel
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The latest as of this morning:

The number of cases worldwide continues to climb. According to data compiled by Johns Hopkins, there have been more than 105,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19. More than 58,000 people have recovered, and more than 3,500 people have died.

There have been 20 deaths in the U.S. — 17 in Washington state and one in California, as well as the two in Florida. There are confirmed cases of the virus in 32 states and Washington D.C.
 
Old 03-08-2020, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I have no issue with you giving guidance on the proper way to use masks. It's really not that complicated.
This was the entire point of my post. Improper removal of a contaminated mask nullifies any benefit of using it.
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