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Old 03-10-2020, 07:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
You could get stuck in quarantine on the way back. What is to stop us from doing that like Israel is doing.

Personally this is the year for me to not do unnecessary travel. If we all did that there would be less planes in the air, less airline workers needed and probably less spread of the virus. Its cheaper to pay these people not to work then the healthcare costs of those who are ill, not to mention deaths.

If you've been watching the Hopkins map updates you might have noticed the hotspots all begin near international airports.

 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:30 PM
 
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This is from an opinion piece in the Washington Post entitled: When a danger is growing exponentially, everything looks fine until it doesn’t.

She goes on to say that the critical tipping point will be when we overwhelm our medical resources; when there are no more hospital beds and no more ventilators for all the people who need them. That's when people will see the big wave.

That's what's happened in Italy. Their medical facilities and practitioners can't handle the number of sick. And could easily happen here.

They need to set guidelines that no one under age 60 will be accepted at a hospital or clinic.
 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Well then you also know that covid-19 is contagious for up to 2 weeks before you get any cough.
That is not the case with the flu.

Flu has an R0 of 1.3
covid-19 has an R0 of 3.6-4.0

That R0 makes a heck of a lot of difference.



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world meters

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#repro
The attack rate or transmissibility (how rapidly the disease spreads) of a virus is indicated by its reproductive number (Ro, pronounced R-nought or r-zero), which represents the average number of people to which a single infected person will transmit the virus.

WHO's estimated (on Jan. 23) Ro to be between 1.4 and 2.5. [13]

Other studies have estimated a Ro between 3.6 and 4.0, and between 2.24 to 3.58. [23].

Preliminary studies had estimated Ro to be between 1.5 and 3.5. [5][6][7]

An outbreak with a reproductive number of below 1 will gradually disappear.

For comparison, the Ro for the common flu is 1.3 and for SARS it was 2.0.
Why would you pick the highest range and just post that?

That's kind of misleading and only incites more people losing their minds and hoarding ridiculous things like toliet paper.
 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:39 PM
 
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In the 2019-20 flu season it is estimated that 13 million have contracted the flu and 16,000 have died. If that many contracted the corona virus then ~455,000 would die if we assume a 3.5% fatality rate. I would bet that the majority of the posters on this particular site are in ill health and over 65 years of age. Prime candidates to be part of that 3%. Yes. I think it is prudent not to panic but doing nothing is not going to help.
 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 View Post
This is from an opinion piece in the Washington Post entitled: When a danger is growing exponentially, everything looks fine until it doesn’t.



She goes on to say that the critical tipping point will be when we overwhelm our medical resources; when there are no more hospital beds and no more ventilators for all the people who need them. That's when people will see the big wave.

That's what's happened in Italy. Their medical facilities and practitioners can't handle the number of sick. And could easily happen here.
Yes, that's a possibility in the US (hospitals/clinics overwhelmed), which is why the CDC is working hard to try to head this off before we get to this point, and why people should neither panic nor ignore the situation. They should stay informed and take reasonable precautions as recommended by the CDC to prevent or slow the spread of this disease.
 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The best way to hold govt approved corporate media accountable is to pay it no mind
Who will tell me what to think though?

 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:50 PM
 
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We don’t have 80,000 dying from the flu... so he’s a liar...

The death rate on the flu is like 0.01%. Death rate on corona so far is like 3% (thus far, its new and we won’t know without many more cases). That’s massive on a nationwide scale.

So what part did he lie about. He didnt say we have 80,000 dying from the flu, he said a bad season is 80,000, and we had that in 2018.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/...deaths-winter/

He said so far theres about 18,000 deaths this season from flu. This article says 20,000 so far. So he was close enough there, so he didnt lie about that.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief.../10/flu-update
 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:56 PM
 
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Default Insurance Companies Waive Co-Pay for Coronavirus Treatments

My hunch is that this won't get widely reported, especially if the idea originated with Trump.

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1237453290129907713
 
Old 03-10-2020, 07:57 PM
 
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The media wants to tank the economy to get trump out....sick ****s
 
Old 03-10-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Speaks a media man. Geesh
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