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With more breakthrough cases happening it's getting harder to blame the unvaccinated.
This isn't going away. Eventually we'll all catch it .
This has been known from day one. Even that idiot Ben Shapiro said this during April of 2020. Everyone will get it. Some will die unfortunately. Such is life.
CDC doesn't even count a case as a breakthrough if you're not hospitalized. How many people get no, mild, or moderate symptoms (just like the original variant) and are not counted as breakthrough?
Shhhh... Don't make sense right now. That ruins the day of the poison pushers
I get it but let's ratchet down the craziness. No need to use disparaging language like this. We can argue the facts and not people's morals. We're all trying too figure this out.
I get it but let's ratchet down the craziness. No need to use disparaging language like this. We can argue the facts and not people's morals. We're all trying too figure this out.
Really? DO you realize the negative comments that some of us have endured on this forum for 3-4 months now.... I'm just personally tired of it.
People even cheering when outstanding people who are against this vaccine have died from covid. Yes, it happens. I've quoted many of them several times, to show the evil intent and joy that some people get when this happens.
Really? DO you realize the negative comments that some of us have endured on this forum for 3-4 months now.... I'm just personally tired of it.
People even cheering when outstanding people who are against this vaccine have died from covid. Yes, it happens. I've quoted many of them several times, to show the evil intent and joy that some people get when this happens.
I get it but I'd rather not sink to the same depths. I only care about the facts and making the right choice for myself.
They have their conscience (or lack thereof) to deal with. And yep I've seen and criticized them for cheering for deaths.
Here are the front lines, people who have not been vaccinated make up the large majority of those we are treating. A few have relatively few pre existing illnesses....and they are on a full court press.
Lungs are amazing but when they are sick they scar. Once they scar they cannot exchange oxygen and the alveolar sacs collapse. We have great tools, antibiotics, ventilators with infinite settings, proving, sedatives and many more at our disposal....but it comes down to if the lungs can regain function.
We have 17 patients with CoV19. 4 are ventilated the others appear to be doing ok. Few if any were vaccinated.
Congrats and I can post more that show flu shots don't do crap. If someone wants to take it fine, that is their choice. At the same time, these covid shots are way worse than flu shot and shouldn't even be compared.
Can you site you sources?
Please site your peer reviewed academic journal articles.
Here are the front lines, people who have not been vaccinated make up the large majority of those we are treating. A few have relatively few pre existing illnesses....and they are on a full court press.
Lungs are amazing but when they are sick they scar. Once they scar they cannot exchange oxygen and the alveolar sacs collapse. We have great tools, antibiotics, ventilators with infinite settings, proving, sedatives and many more at our disposal....but it comes down to if the lungs can regain function.
We have 17 patients with CoV19. 4 are ventilated the others appear to be doing ok. Few if any were vaccinated.
The vaccines work.
I truly don't think anyone doesn't think they aren't providing a safety net to stay out of the hospital, for the most part and it seems it works to avoid serious illness/death. That is a great thing. I have loved ones who are vaccinated. I WANT them to be effective and SAFE.
Unfortunately, the way they have marketed and implemented them is suspicious to some. The lack of information on MSM is another reason. People who find it important to be informed will look elsewhere and then have to sift through mountains of information and much of that is skewed.
I am aware that there are nut jobs everywhere on all sides of any spectrum and that just stirs the pot more. I don't believe that is the norm nor the average person who is just hesitant, for whatever reasons.
Me, personally, while a bit hesitant in the beginning, as I am with any drug and I mean ANY, I am not against vaccines. Just so happened, I got Covid from an asymptomatic 18 year old. Fortunately, my husband and I got through it, so now I am hesitant due to the information regarding people who have recovered. Reinfections are rare, side effects from the vaccines are rare and bad effects from Covid is rare. So, I am still just confused. Ugh.
I truly don't think anyone doesn't think they aren't providing a safety net to stay out of the hospital, for the most part and it seems it works to avoid serious illness/death. That is a great thing. I have loved ones who are vaccinated. I WANT them to be effective and SAFE.
Unfortunately, the way they have marketed and implemented them is suspicious to some. The lack of information on MSM is another reason. People who find it important to be informed will look elsewhere and then have to sift through mountains of information and much of that is skewed.
I am aware that there are nut jobs everywhere on all sides of any spectrum and that just stirs the pot more. I don't believe that is the norm nor the average person who is just hesitant, for whatever reasons.
Me, personally, while a bit hesitant in the beginning, as I am with any drug and I mean ANY, I am not against vaccines. Just so happened, I got Covid from an asymptomatic 18 year old. Fortunately, my husband and I got through it, so now I am hesitant due to the information regarding people who have recovered. Reinfections are rare, side effects from the vaccines are rare and bad effects from Covid is rare. So, I am still just confused. Ugh.
There is no need at this time to get the vaccine. You've "earned" your antibodies.
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