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Old 03-11-2020, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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What is the DNC doing to "steal" the election? Forcing voters in Michigan to vote for Biden at gunpoint?

Bernie has a passionate, but finite number of supporters. He failed to broaden his base since he lost in 2016. He is losing because his message does not resonate with moderates, African Americans, or suburbanites and those are the most critical demographic groups in a Democratic primary.
Bernie has also failed miserably in turning out the youth vote, which didn't help his campaign one bit. Biden is cementing a coalition of Democrats that will be difficult for anyone with a functioning brain to ignore. He may end up with most of the starting Democratic field in his administration.

Biden was smart enough to learn from his tenure with Obama. He will surround himself with the best people he can find and leave them alone to do their jobs. I doubt a Biden Administration will incur scores of indictments, either.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So the argument is that the DNC "cheated" Bernie by failing to force candidates with no path to the nomination to spend millions of donor dollars in order to ensure that Bernie was able to take the delegate lead despite having no more than a plurality of voters? That sounds like you wanted them to cheat for Bernie, not the other way around.

Bernie Sanders is an independent who only joins the Democratic party when he needs is money and support for Presidential runs. Nevertheless, the DNC changed its rules to accommodate him and at his request after 2016. Bernie is losing because the majority of voters prefer Biden.

I understand that Bernie fans are frustrated and I feel empathy for them. But this was anything but a cheat - it is the will of the voters.
The GOP has been among Sander's staunchest supporters. Biden is their nightmare, now come to life.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Biden's VP would have a good shot at being President because (IMO) Biden would only serve one term, so his VP would be the natural successor candidate in 2024. The dementia thing is just a baseless smear promulgated by partisan extremists desperate for any way to try to damage Biden's candidacy and parroted by low-information right wing lemmings.
I don’t parrot anyone. I’ve watched Biden and all the coverage closely. IMO, the man has dementia. Time will tell for sure.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Bernie has also failed miserably in turning out the youth vote, which didn't help his campaign one bit. Biden is cementing a coalition of Democrats that will be difficult for anyone with a functioning brain to ignore. He may end up with most of the starting Democratic field in his administration.

Biden was smart enough to learn from his tenure with Obama. He will surround himself with the best people he can find and leave them alone to do their jobs. I doubt a Biden Administration will incur scores of indictments, either.
Yep - and Sanders presented historic youth turnout as his path to the nomination. It's not happening. They're staying at home. Like always. Maybe worse than normally.

Biden isn't a perfect candidate, but he's a moderate. He's not a socialist radical who's proposing doubling the size of the federal government and doubling our taxes to pay for it, while dangling some vision of a Utopian society for voters. I mean, I actually *do* think that the poor and struggling working families need a break, and that should be an important goal. But you can't just say "Okay, we'll fix all this by having the government just pay for everything." At some point, you've got to stop adding on trillion dollar programs to your portfolio of proposals. The guy is just trying to do way too much.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:49 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Biden isn't a perfect candidate, but he's a moderate.
Biden is whatever the DNC Power Club tells him they want him to be.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:50 AM
 
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I don’t parrot anyone. I’ve watched Biden and all the coverage closely. IMO, the man has dementia. Time will tell for sure.
It's unquestionable, partisan hacks will try to deny the obvious, but anyone paying attention can see for themselves. The man is circling the drain, he can barely talk at this point.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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It's unquestionable, partisan hacks will try to deny the obvious, but anyone paying attention can see for themselves. The man is circling the drain, he can barely talk at this point.
He gave a strong 12 minute speech last night, yet he "can barely talk" according to hyperpartisan Trump tribalists. GTFO with this nonsense. No one is buying it.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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And as much as Bernie supporters blame the establishment for showing up and voting, they have to ask why the youth weren't motivated to show up and vote.

This time Bernie lost states he won last time. Warren didn't take away enough votes to blame her and that was countered by the fact that Biden lost votes to Bloomberg and other candidates.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:54 AM
 
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He gave a strong 12 minute speech last night, yet he "can barely talk" according to hyperpartisan Trump tribalists. GTFO with this nonsense. No one is buying it.
Oh yeah.... I'm the partisan here lol.


Just remember, you asked for this.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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All of the other candidates except Warren dropped out and endorsed Biden just before super Tuesday. You think that is a coincidence? Just wait a few months to see what the DNC promised them.
That's a very odd conspiracy theory. It's pretty clear that they dropped out because they realized they couldn't win.
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