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Old 03-04-2020, 08:51 PM
 
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It's going to be Biden. That's always been the DNC's choice.
His VP is going to be Hillary, if they can get away with it.
Hillary will not be the VP. No way, no how.
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Old 03-04-2020, 08:53 PM
 
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I don't know why it's so hard for Bernie supporters to understand that their are plenty of Democrat rich politicians that would be hurt by Bernie. They would vote for Trump before Bernie. Because while they might openly dislike Trump. They secretly love how they are richer than they were 4 years ago. And 4 more years of Trump is bearable compared to losing millions with Sanders in office.

With Biden in office you might also have a better chance of having another 4 years of Democrats in the White House because I can promise you with 4 years of Bernie you'll have Democrats finding ways to impeach him.
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Old 03-04-2020, 08:57 PM
 
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I don't think you guys really get it. The moderates finally stepped up and said enough with this BS. Some waited in lines for 7 hours to vote...in a primary no less. They clearly wanted to made their voice heard. Plus Bernie supporters didn't turn out like they did in 2016. Why do we want to vote for another extremist when we already have one as president. Only a moderate can beat Trump and most of us know that.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Old Dominion
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I don't know why it's so hard for Bernie supporters to understand that their are plenty of Democrat rich politicians that would be hurt by Bernie. They would vote for Trump before Bernie. Because while they might openly dislike Trump. They secretly love how they are richer than they were 4 years ago. And 4 more years of Trump is bearable compared to losing millions with Sanders in office.

With Biden in office you might also have a better chance of having another 4 years of Democrats in the White House because I can promise you with 4 years of Bernie you'll have Democrats finding ways to impeach him.
How about middle class people who recognize that we have a fairly generous social welfare system and we don’t want to be taxed to the hilt to pay for a larger one. Decriminalizing border crosses coupled with a platform to offer subsidized healthcare to undocumented immigrants is a recipe for disaster and major tax increases. The middle class is stretched as it is.

I don’t doubt there are the rich politicians who don’t like Bernie, but don’t discount the middle class who sees his proposals as impacting them in a negative way.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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It keeps me sane to know that I'm not the only C-D'er who can see the Elite's web.

The Dem Elites are masters at it, and they have the media brainwashing machine at their dispose. The Pubs' Elites w/ Fox News & talk radio are envious wannabe's.

Here's the Elite's web some see: politicians + fortune 500 + top 1% = the rest lose (useful idiots)

Here's what most Americans have been programmed to see: Red versus Blue

Bernie & Trump BOTH see the Elite's web, & are trying to kill it; in different ways.

It can't be killed in 8 years. It's is so embedded into the system, it takes longer. It has taken Trump 3 years just to ID his Deep State/Elite enemies, let alone eradicate them. Trump hasn't even repealed ACA yet...big med's winning.

If the Pub's would turn the social issues over to the Dems, & focus on killing the web, we could have Red + Blue citizens vs. the Elites, and eventually regain control.

Wage and Wealth gaps would normalize.

It won't happen because the Red vs. Blue programming is too strong. Divided we fall, so we are all essentially the Elite's slaves.

Now, we return you to your normal programming...."Biden's senile" ...."Trump is a lying dictator"
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:06 PM
 
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I don't think you guys really get it. The moderates finally stepped up and said enough with this BS. Some waited in lines for 7 hours to vote...in a primary no less. They clearly wanted to made their voice heard. Plus Bernie supporters didn't turn out like they did in 2016. Why do we want to vote for another extremist when we already have one as president. Only a moderate can beat Trump and most of us know that.
Biden is just a cut-out for whatever the big money establishment globalist elites are pushing for.

The guy is a weather vane and has no dependable principles to speak of. Not even you think so. You just hope that he can beat Trump, and then let come what may.

Watch Bloomberg get behind this guy with his big fat wallet. And he will not be the only one, not by any means.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Hillary will not be the VP. No way, no how.
That's exactly what you said about Trump becoming president

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Biden is just a cut-out for whatever the big money establishment globalist elites are pushing for.

The guy is a weather vane and has no dependable principles to speak of. Not even you think so. You just hope that he can beat Trump, and then let come what may.

Watch Bloomberg get behind this guy with his big fat wallet. And he will not be the only one, not by any means.
Biden was a fool all his life. And now he is a senile fool. The big money elites would have a field day with that tool in the white house. It's one of the main reasons they and the DNC are doing everything possible to ensure he receives the nomination. The collusion and absolute corruption of the DNC is so in your face, even democrats with their heads buried in the sand (or their rear) can see it by now.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:19 PM
 
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Biden is just a cut-out for whatever the big money establishment globalist elites are pushing for.

The guy is a weather vane and has no dependable principles to speak of. Not even you think so. You just hope that he can beat Trump, and then let come what may.

Watch Bloomberg get behind this guy with his big fat wallet. And he will not be the only one, not by any means.
Biden would beat Trump. Bernie would not. That's why Biden had a huge win last night. Biden won in states he didn't go to or even invest in. So there was no big money spent in many of the states he won.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:22 PM
 
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How about middle class people who recognize that we have a fairly generous social welfare system and we don’t want to be taxed to the hilt to pay for a larger one. Decriminalizing border crosses coupled with a platform to offer subsidized healthcare to undocumented immigrants is a recipe for disaster and major tax increases. The middle class is stretched as it is.

I don’t doubt there are the rich politicians who don’t like Bernie, but don’t discount the middle class who sees his proposals as impacting them in a negative way.
I agree with you 100% I was just giving 1 example of how Bernie supporters thought so many Democrats or Anti Trump voters were going to jump on the Bernie train.
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Old 03-04-2020, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Biden would beat Trump. Bernie would not. That's why Biden had a huge win last night. Biden won in states he didn't go to or even invest in. So there was no big money spent in many of the states he won.

No, he won't. He is an embarrassment and he belongs in a nursing home. You can't possibly bury your head deep enough in the sand to believe America would elect Joe Dementia Biden over Trump.

To be fair though, Bernie wouldn't beat Trump either. He is terrible for the stock market as well. Tons of lefties have money in the stock market and don't want to see their 401Ks ravaged every time Bernie wins more delegates. And if he got the nomination, the stock market would tank for months.
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