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I think in this day and age, we have to distinguish between small and medium locally owned businesses and the large conglomerate global companies. I agree that local businesses are not the enemy of the workers. There is a personal relationship between the owner and the workers; more of a sense of "we are in this together."
But the large companies seem to just look at the numbers. If they can make more money by shipping jobs oversees, they will do it. Many have done it already. Their emphasis on profits and money for the shareholders makes them forget that it is the labor of their workers who are actually making them profitable. But they don't care where the workers are anymore.
We used to hear about companies who were good corporate citizens. They were good to their workers and helped in their communities. Don't hear that anymore.
You are so right. I am privileged to know a number of people who own larger local businesses because of our much smaller business. They are civic minded by donating to local causes and caring about their employees. They do random acts of kindness and promote it amongst their workers.
If I was still working and not retired, I would choose to work at one of these businesses. Even, with a slight decrease in pay and benefits, it would be preferable to be employed by a local company.
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Working Americans do not vote Democrat.
University professors do, bureaucrats do, college students, homeless, welfare recipients, and some union members do, but the average working American? ....... Nah.
Really? I'm a working American and I vote Democrat
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~30,000,000 Americans are still w/o healthcare insurance, & the # is growing by ~1M/yr right now. They cannot afford the "affordable" healthcare act which proved to be UN-affordable...
This link is 2 years old, but it shows the trends of growing #'s of uninsured Americans.
When ACA went into effect, 42M were w/o coverage. Obama & Pelosi tore down the entire industry to get 12M Americans covered, & most of those people were given the coverage via supplements.
Deductibels are now higher, & coverages lower. Pre-ACA 85% of those covered were happy with their coverage...today, only 52% are happy with the ACA & many of those are taking the supplements.
During the time the Republicans had a majority in the house, they had RINO obstructionists who blocked repeal & replace numerous times. McCain lied to Republican leaders saying he'd vote to repeal & replace, then voted against it, so the bill failed by his 1 vote.
The UN-affordable care act is a train wreck, & the Democrats have to wear it. All the lies that were told about keeping your Doctors and Insurance have not been forgotten. Each month, when Americans pay out 40% more for their coverage than before, for higher deductibles & less coverage, they are reminded of the lies.
The Replublicans are continuously working on an ACA fix, but until they re-take the House, its useless. It doesnt look like the Pubs will retake the House in 2020, so the next chance at a fix is 2024. By 2024, there will be ~34M Americans w/o coverage, and the ACA approval rating will be well below 50%.
All these Trumpers so invested in the inner workings and future of the Democratic Party.
Not just Trumpers, Independents who are waiting for the Democratic Party to live up to its rhetoric.
You know about diversity? Standing up for blue collar America? No, illegals don't count as blue collar America. About putting the American working class first? No the Democratic Party doesn't = the working class. Stop putting party before country. Fine the GOP does the same thing, but this thread is about the Democratic Party...
Democrats had their chance to live up to their rhetoric. 6 females weren't good enough to support. 1 openly gay candidate? Nope. The Asian I get, the democrats have never stood up for Asians, that is unless they are here illegally. Instead the democratic voters did the same thing the GOP voters do. Voted for the old white guys. LOL. The GOP gets a pass on that, they didn't make anti-white old guy part of their platform. lol
NO, the Democratic Party has demonstrated yet again that hardliners are hypocrites and it doesn't matter which party they are loyal to, they are exactly the same.
How does cutting taxes for the wealthy and removing coverage for pre-existing conditions help the working man?
How did saddling the middle-class with a massive tax increase known as the Affordable Care Act help the working man. It may have helped a select few but the massive majority got screwed by it. I get to call it a tax increase because the SCOTUS ruled it as such.
So how does parading illegals on stage and misrepresenting a chemical engineer as your average illegal help the working man?
How does enabling illegals who lowball wages help the working man? You can't have it both ways. The Democratic Party bends over to protect illegals, the same illegals that low balled honest citizens out of their trades. Those Sanctuary cities aren't exactly Republican strong holds.
So remind me again, how was involving us in not 1 but 2 civil wars, good for the middle class?
No, the democrats are no more for the working middle class than the GOP is. They don't even try to live up to their rhetoric.
Not just Trumpers, Independents who are waiting for the Democratic Party to live up to its rhetoric.
You know about diversity? Standing up for blue collar America? No, illegals don't count as blue collar America. About putting the American working class first? No the Democratic Party doesn't = the working class. Stop putting party before country. Fine the GOP does the same thing, but this thread is about the Democratic Party...
Democrats had their chance to live up to their rhetoric. 6 females weren't good enough to support. 1 openly gay candidate? Nope. The Asian I get, the democrats have never stood up for Asians, that is unless they are here illegally. Instead the democratic voters did the same thing the GOP voters do. Voted for the old white guys. LOL. The GOP gets a pass on that, they didn't make anti-white old guy part of their platform. lol
NO, the Democratic Party has demonstrated yet again that hardliners are hypocrites and it doesn't matter which party they are loyal to, they are exactly the same.
This board is 95% Trump ride or die fanaticists so forgive me if I don’t take this concern for Democrats seriously.
By all means if neither party suits your needs, start a third.
How did saddling the middle-class with a massive tax increase known as the Affordable Care Act help the working man. It may have helped a select few but the massive majority got screwed by it. I get to call it a tax increase because the SCOTUS ruled it as such.
So how does parading illegals on stage and misrepresenting a chemical engineer as your average illegal help the working man?
How does enabling illegals who lowball wages help the working man? You can't have it both ways. The Democratic Party bends over to protect illegals, the same illegals that low balled honest citizens out of their trades. Those Sanctuary cities aren't exactly Republican strong holds.
So remind me again, how was involving us in not 1 but 2 civil wars, good for the middle class?
No, the democrats are no more for the working middle class than the GOP is. They don't even try to live up to their rhetoric.
Not a huge fan of the ACA but only because it was a half measure. It certainly impacted some in a negative way.
As to your 2nd claim, despite being a Trump/Stephen Miller talking point.... that is simply not based in fact. Much debate on the topic.
Now you're really trying to deny reality. Construction in many areas is dominated by illegals. Illegals that have displaced American workers and driven down wages. As you say-private companies do so so they can pay them less-that's the whole point. And it is the Democratic party that is fighting to enable illegals to enter this nation, displace American workers and satisfy their corporate masters. Not that a portion of establishment Republicans don't do the same.
This is just one case where Trump has actually sided with American workers-over US corporations.
Illegals have absolutely not displaced American union workers in construction. Unions will hire H2-B workers though just like everyone else. And you know why they have to do that.....Americans don't want construction jobs.
Really? I'm a working American and I vote Democrat
Well, apparently you don’t know what’s good for you. You should vote for the Republicans, who will give you the freedom to work longer hours for lower pay. You’re not some kind of freedom-hating socialist, are you?
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