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Old 06-19-2020, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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The thing is, hospitals are not that far away from being overwhelmed in some Sun Belt states now. Arizona ICU beds are at 84% capacity, for example. Florida seems to be at about 77% capacity.

Given the number of cases in these states is doubling each week now - and any policy change take a few weeks to register in hospitalizations - there's literally nothing that can probably be done to stop hospitals form being overwhelmed a few weeks from now.
Isn’t that what was said before, and instead, 10’s of millions of dollars of treatment centers never saw a patient and were taken down?

 
Old 06-19-2020, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Isn’t that what was said before, and instead, 10’s of millions of dollars of treatment centers never saw a patient and were taken down?
The way pandemics work is if you're successful, the effort ends up looking like it's wasted.

I really don't see a reason to debate this though. We should know by July 4th what happens.
 
Old 06-19-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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The thing is, hospitals are not that far away from being overwhelmed in some Sun Belt states now. Arizona ICU beds are at 84% capacity, for example. Florida seems to be at about 77% capacity.

Given the number of cases in these states is doubling each week now - and any policy change take a few weeks to register in hospitalizations - there's literally nothing that can probably be done to stop hospitals form being overwhelmed a few weeks from now.
Yes but what is the normal capacity? It is not 0% so that may be fine and the 1 article even says it is not a major concern right now. Why would any hospital maintain a tremendous unneeded capacity?

Hospitals have the ability to convert beds and bring additional ICU beds online in a surge situation when necessary. Within 48 hours, hospitals have the capability to dramatically increase statewide staffed capacity in the event of a surge situation
 
Old 06-19-2020, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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The way pandemics work is if you're successful, the effort ends up looking like it's wasted.

I really don't see a reason to debate this though. We should know by July 4th what happens.
Overreaction has proven those efforts wasted millions upon millions of dollars, while also decimating an economy and causing other major health problems.

Good idea.
 
Old 06-19-2020, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I just feel like everyone forgot what we were trying to accomplish. Remember flatten the curve? Not cure and eradicate. That is a long term goal through more effective treatment and a vaccine, for now we should expect lows and highs in cases but keep living. If hospitals become overwhelmed then I'll start to get concerned.
Bingo
 
Old 06-20-2020, 09:25 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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20 new cases. I keep hoping for better, but I guess 20 isn't that bad considering how people are acting in our region.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020...ept-new-cases/
 
Old 06-20-2020, 02:02 PM
 
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I just feel like everyone forgot what we were trying to accomplish. Remember flatten the curve?

I do....turns out it was a pipe dream, with the current "leadership" occupying the white house.
 
Old 06-20-2020, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I do....turns out it was a pipe dream, with the current "leadership" occupying the white house.
Fauci’s occupying the White House? Isn’t he the expert? He said the US had nothing to worry about.
 
Old 06-20-2020, 03:26 PM
 
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Fauci’s occupying the White House? Isn’t he the expert? He said the US had nothing to worry about.

I can't see what you said, since you're blocked, but I find it fascinating that you follow me around like a puppy dog. I don't reply to you, but you reply to literally every single post I make. It's kind of sad, really. You're like the little kid jumping up and down trying to get a word in while the adults are talking. I guess you must get something out if it?
 
Old 06-20-2020, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I can't see what you said, since you're blocked, but I find it fascinating that you follow me around like a puppy dog. I don't reply to you, but you reply to literally every single post I make. It's kind of sad, really. You're like the little kid jumping up and down trying to get a word in while the adults are talking. I guess you must get something out if it?
You replied and quoted my post just yesterday.

The country isn’t going to stay shut down so the economy can crumble for a virus with a 90%+ survival rate just so Dems can try to gain an edge in November...and those who are scared of the virus have every right to stay home until it’s hopefully soon gone.

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