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Old 03-14-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Good recent article from Johns Hopkins.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...coronavirus-in

 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I completely agree with TMRetired.

We have to do our own part. This is not a political issue.
The president of the United States, be it a democrat or a republican, has a certain responsibility with messages and announcements to the citizens regarding an epidemic/pandemic wouldn't you agree?
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:46 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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DJT announcement that Google was building a nation-wide COVID-19 screening web site is mostly a fabrication. Sister company Verily... is testing a triage web site in the Bay Area for health care workers.

Ref.: https://www.wired.com/story/coronavi...oogle-website/

Still can't believe anything coming out of the White House.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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The president of the United States, be it a democrat or a republican, has a certain responsibility with messages and announcements to the citizens regarding an epidemic/pandemic wouldn't you agree?
In normal times, with a normal president, I would agree with you. Unfortunately we do not have that kind of person in the White House now.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:49 AM
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Might be a good time for people to learn breathing technics, respiratory exercises.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The president of the United States, be it a democrat or a republican, has a certain responsibility with messages and announcements to the citizens regarding an epidemic/pandemic wouldn't you agree?
Yes, I agree. But I am getting tired of all these finger pointing. It benefits no one, certainly not me.

I choose the posts I want to read, so the political bickering posts is a waste of my time.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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There could easily be 1,000,000 or more that have been infected by now worldwide, and we'll probably never know what that true number is, because up to 20% of infected people are totally asymptomatic, and never develop any cough or fever at all over the entire time they are infected. Or they had mild symptoms and were never tested to confirm if they had it in the first place.

Supposedly, China is developing a serologoical test (different from the kits now that are looking for the virus genome inside you) to be able to test people to see if they have the conoravirus antibodies in their body, meaning that they were infected at some point but never got sick, that will at least give us a better idea of the amount of people that were truly infected.

Containment in the US is impossible at this point, you would of had to seal off the entire United States (air/land/sea) months ago and not let anybody into or out of the country back in January, and even then it was probably too late. Then you would of had to keep it like that probably until next January or longer!

Assume the virus is everywhere at this point, don't panic, but wash your hands regularly for at least 20 seconds with soap, avoid touching your face, especially your eyes, nose and mouth, and avoid people as much as you can. It's now all about delaying everyone getting it at the same time, as to not overwhelm the healthcare system. If we can at least stagger the infections, we have a much better chance of keeping our death rate low.

It's basically not a matter of if you will get it, but a matter of when, stay strong my friends, we're all in this together!
I am thinking that in order to get a visa to visit a country with low or zero rates of infection...a test for antibodies would prove someone already had it and recovered and would be safe to approve.
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I've read that there could be a need for over 700,000 ventilators, and that there are less than 200,000 in the entire country.
The coronavirus was handled poorly from the top down and from the beginning in the US. As a result, we are facing a crisis similar to Iran or Italy.

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If we stay on the current track, this model predicts that roughly a third of Americans – more than 100 million people — could become infected (including more than nine million at one time). Other estimates are higher, up to two-thirds, but even in this scenario, one million could die.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-response.html
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:54 AM
 
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You could say the very same thing for the flu or chicken pox or measles or any communicable disease. If it's mild you stay home and you go under the radar of stats.
But in those cases though there is history of confirmed cases which gives a basis for estimates.

We have no basis so we cannot estimate. We only have the facts given to us..confirmed deaths/confirmed infected.
Of course, the seasonal flu death rate is probably even less than 0.1% or 0.2% or whatever it is, since many who get it just stay home and never go see a doctor to get tested to confirm it was indeed a certain strain of the flu, which reduces the overall number of total flu cases reported, therefore the denominator is actually higher than what is being reported.

The big unknowns with this coronavirus is there is no current vaccine, like the seasonal flu, they don't know yet if this new novel virus is seasonal, meaning that the infections might go down once the summer hits, like the seasonal flu does and they don't know how long immunity lasts after one becomes infected and survives, is it life-long, a few months, a year?

Like I said previously, at this point it's all about delaying the amount of infections, so not everyone gets infected at the same time and brings down the entire healthcare system.

It's not a matter of if you will get it, but a matter of when!
 
Old 03-14-2020, 09:54 AM
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DJT announcement that Google was building a nation-wide COVID-19 screening web site is mostly a fabrication. Sister company Verily... is testing a triage web site in the Bay Area for health care workers.

Ref.: https://www.wired.com/story/coronavi...oogle-website/

Still can't believe anything coming out of the White House.
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*"a planning effort is underway" for Verily to "aid in the COVID-19 testing effort in the US.

So verify is planning it but they were unaware Trump was going to announce it the way he did. Got it.
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