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"First, scientists need to confirm whether the test results were indeed accurate. Remember, no test is perfect. If people can screw up a drink order, they can certainly mess up a medical test. Even if a test is performed properly, you could still get a positive result when you don’t actually have an infection. On the flip side, just because you test negative doesn’t necessarily mean that there is no way that you are carrying the virus. That’s why a doctor may test you multiple times to be sure of a result.
Secondly, doctors and other scientists need to double-check or triple-check that each of these patients actually got re-infected with the virus rather than had an infection that simply lasted a long time. What if, for example, the cruise passenger and the tour bus guide each had fairly long infections and just happened to have intervening false negative test
Third of all, the amount of immunity that you build up after being exposed to any virus depends on not only virus itself but surprise, surprise your immune system and its response. When your immune system sees a particular virus for the first time, it can essentially get caught with its pants down, not ready to defend your body against this new invader. However, exposure to the virus either through a vaccine or getting infected may train your immune system so that, borrowing the words of former President George W. Bush, “fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” If strong enough, your immune system then may be ready with proper defenses next time the virus comes calling. Could the cases of reinfection then be examples of people who happened to have weaker immune systems?
eventually, what truly will protect you is your strong immune system. So far, test positive just means you have coronavirus in your body, doesn't mean you are a patient of covid-19. It certainly doesn't mean that you need to be hospitalized. Like Tom Hanks might be tested positive, he can easily manage his symptoms at home.
My 85 year old MIL with a pacemaker is totally upset they closed the clubhouse and they will be closing the gym she goes to. I had no words other than to tell her that she is in the high risk group that will mostly likely die if they catch it.
Once you hit 85+ and are still breathing, you think every day is just a gift.
"First, scientists need to confirm whether the test results were indeed accurate. Remember, no test is perfect. If people can screw up a drink order, they can certainly mess up a medical test. Even if a test is performed properly, you could still get a positive result when you don’t actually have an infection. On the flip side, just because you test negative doesn’t necessarily mean that there is no way that you are carrying the virus. That’s why a doctor may test you multiple times to be sure of a result.
Secondly, doctors and other scientists need to double-check or triple-check that each of these patients actually got re-infected with the virus rather than had an infection that simply lasted a long time. What if, for example, the cruise passenger and the tour bus guide each had fairly long infections and just happened to have intervening false negative test
Third of all, the amount of immunity that you build up after being exposed to any virus depends on not only virus itself but surprise, surprise your immune system and its response. When your immune system sees a particular virus for the first time, it can essentially get caught with its pants down, not ready to defend your body against this new invader. However, exposure to the virus either through a vaccine or getting infected may train your immune system so that, borrowing the words of former President George W. Bush, “fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” If strong enough, your immune system then may be ready with proper defenses next time the virus comes calling. Could the cases of reinfection then be examples of people who happened to have weaker immune systems?
eventually, what truly will protect you is your strong immune system. So far, test positive just means you have coronavirus in your body, doesn't mean you are a patient of covid-19. It certainly doesn't mean that you need to be hospitalized. Like Tom Hanks might be tested positive, he can easily manage his symptoms at home.
Both Hanks and his wife were hospitalized in Australia.
SARS didn't disappear. It was contained. Like we're trying to do with Covid-19.
MERS didn't disappear. It is barely contagious among people, but still exists in bats and camels.
SARS CoV 1 underwent a mutation that made it less fit: harder to replicate. It died out and now only exists in labs.
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee
Our President is so smart. Have these "scientists" even considered giving the flu vaccination to people infected by COVID-19, as our President suggested?
The value of the flu vaccine is that it reduces the number of people being hospitalized with flu and eases the strain on our hospitals. Flu vaccine will not prevent COVID-19.
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee
But a logical and empirically-grounded decision. My research indicates that the initial reports on CV were that American citizens were immune to it. So if you allowed Americans who had traveled to China back into the country, there was basically nothing to worry about since they were a zero-risk.
That's one thing I love about this administration. It's always evidence and empiricism that's driving all decisions rather than junk science.
Please cite your sources. No one with any expertise has ever said Americans were immune to COVID-19.
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired
All countries did Moneill because in the past they did disappear..SARS, MERS and Ebola.
It was a short lived scare.
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Originally Posted by moneill
They have never disappeared. They still exist. We have mitigated their spread with vaccines, treatment.
SARS disappeared; MERS and Ebola have not. The reservoir for MERS is camels; that for Ebola is still uncertain.
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Originally Posted by Neuling
At least one good news, it seems that infected pregnant women don't give corona to their babies. I am sure a lot of pregnant women are worried about that.
There is a report of one infected newborn so far. It is unknown whether the infection happened before birth or after; mom was infected.
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend
The hospitals and morgues better be overflowing otherwise the people who created this panic and hysteria will have a lot to answer for.
I hope the government authorizes private causes of action against anyone who intentionally worsened the panic, including internet posters and social media users. They need to pay a price for what will be shown to be obviously reckless conduct.
If the hospitals and morgues are not overflowing that will be proof that efforts to mitigate spread of the virus were successful.
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Where's that poster that said he didn't know anybody that had any connection to someone....here you go.
Two weeks of quarantine not social distancing.
That's a big deal.
And that's why if we had more tests we could test her and be done -- yes or no.
Somehow they tested all those basketball players in no time.
Welcome to the USA.
A negative test does not rule out infection. It is not "one and done".
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981
Also, this whole ventilator business is overrated.
The truth is that once you are on ventilator, well, you are pretty much done anyway. Sure, there are people "saved", but how many?
It is better that you don't get it in the first place.
If being on a ventilator did not save lives no one would be placed on one.
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
I want to know how COVID-19 spread from China (where all of it originated) to other countries all over the world.
Mysteriously, there is a lack of information about this for God knows what reason.
There is no lack of information. A massive amount has been included in threads here on CD.
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Originally Posted by Neuling
Maybe it was engineered after all. There are several military labs that are working with SARS and such nasty organisms, turning them into ever nastier bio-warfare agents.
I think those people responsible for those programs should be executed, be it in the US, China, wherever.
Of course viruses as such are utterly stupid, they don't think or want to spread. I wonder what the purpose of those stupid organisms is Maybe an evolutionary agent?
I really do not think that anyone trying to engineer a bioweapon would choose one for which there is no way to protect his own personnel. I recently read a novel where the agent was a weaponized anthrax, treatable with an antibiotic, for example.
It is better to disable an enemy than to kill him, because then your opponent has to expend resources taking care of the sick.
Did you know that a significant percentage of human DNA is derived from ancient viruses?
If you have the pneumonia vaccine, will that help prevent the incidence of getting pneumonia if you catch coronavirus
I believe the answer was no, and I think it was Suzy who addressed it, but I do not remember the specifics.
But don't quote me on any of it.
The thing is that COVID-19 causes a severe viral pneumonia. The pneumococcal vaccine cannot prevent that. It can prevent some, not all, of the bacterial infections that set up in lungs damaged by viruses.
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Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948
There are 8 million dead Aztecs that say that is baloney
Google it
Genetics says Yersinia pestis originated in China.
Trump got it wrong and now he has it right.
That seems to drive some people over the edge. Evidently it irritates them when someone admits their mistake - even if they do it days later.
Both Hanks and his wife were hospitalized in Australia.
Oh okay, didn't know what. Then he is a bad example then
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Maybe an evolutionary agent?
