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Old 03-15-2020, 08:26 AM
 
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Well, you are, of course, welcome to think what you will. I'm thinking President Obama knows Biden is head and shoulders above what we have now, and that Biden will surround himself with competent advisers and listen to them. That puts him well above Trump from the starting gate. And yes, he stayed out until the Democrats chose their candidate. I respect him for that.
You of course are welcome to vote for a puppet president who is also super corrupt, but you’ve certainly lost whatever moral high ground you had against Trump voters. Democrats got themselves into quite a pickle here. I knew they were throwing it all away the minute they rioted at his inauguration and threw a three year temper tantrum. They got nothing, and it’s their own damn fault. I for one would have been glad of a real alternative to Trump had the Democrats not acted like little asses and put up some good candidates, but they had to have their most diverse field of jackasses and ended up with a socialist and a senile old man. Great job guys!
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Did Obama have a choice in having Uncle Joe be his VP or did the Dems tell him he needs to have a old crusty white politician if he would have any chance of winning? I don't think Obama would have picked Joe himself and after years of working with him he probably realized that Uncle Joe is a loose cannon flip flopper that is losing his mind and that is why he hasn't endorsed him until now.



Uncle Joe is a dinosaur and he should really be retiring not running for the most stressful and important job in the world. We should really be concerned with who Joe will be picking for his VP because they will likely end up in charge.



Is there any way that we can invoke the 25th amendment before the election?
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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actually, it's common for past Presdidents to withhold endorsements until after the nominee emerges.

Nothing new here. Sorry to pour water on your posts.
This is supposed to be an Obama hate thread and you're trying to impose facts and logic on us? We're gonna kick you off the Trump train right now!
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:41 AM
 
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Did Obama have a choice in having Uncle Joe be his VP or did the Dems tell him he needs to have a old crusty white politician if he would have any chance of winning? I don't think Obama would have picked Joe himself and after years of working with him he probably realized that Uncle Joe is a loose cannon flip flopper that is losing his mind and that is why he hasn't endorsed him until now.



Uncle Joe is a dinosaur and he should really be retiring not running for the most stressful and important job in the world. We should really be concerned with who Joe will be picking for his VP because they will likely end up in charge.



Is there any way that we can invoke the 25th amendment before the election?
No one voted for Obama because Biden was on the ticket. They voted for Obama despite Biden being on the ticket. I remember thinking at the time he probably was being pressured to have Hillary as his VP choice and couldn’t stand her, so compromised and made Joe Biden the VP and Hillary Secretary of State. That way she had to be invested in his presidency and no one would want to assassinate Obama.

The last part was a joke...mostly.
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:45 AM
 
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You of course are welcome to vote for a puppet president who is also super corrupt, but you’ve certainly lost whatever moral high ground you had against Trump voters. Democrats got themselves into quite a pickle here. I knew they were throwing it all away the minute they rioted at his inauguration and threw a three year temper tantrum. They got nothing, and it’s their own damn fault. I for one would have been glad of a real alternative to Trump had the Democrats not acted like little asses and put up some good candidates, but they had to have their most diverse field of jackasses and ended up with a socialist and a senile old man. Great job guys!
You, my dear, should do stand up comedy. Considering what you have supported this post is a joke. Everything you rail against regarding Biden is true tenfold for Trump.

You are also a liar. Show me proof that Democrats were "rioting at Trump's inauguration" and prove me wrong.

Give me someone who understands how to run a government and who will select competent people to advise him. Not Jared Kushner and the like; basically anyone willing to get down on his knees and worship the king. No experience for the job the king bestows on you necessary as long as you have excellent bootlicker skills.

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Old 03-15-2020, 08:57 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Has W. endorsed Trumpf yet?
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Obama can't prevent himself from being seen in commercials- Biden was with him, as was Bernie when he was President. (Along with a bunch of other Democrats and Republicans.)

But he's not going to officially endorse anyone until the nomination is settled. No former President ever does.

They had their turn, and they know the job. No ex-President will ever handicap the incoming President with a rogue endorsement. They all stick by their party's choice and stay out of the way until that choice is settled and done.

That's fair play. Once the nominee is settled, a former President can be expected to go out and work for his party's candidate. Every ex-President knows the limits of his influence.

A premature endorsement could throw the election to the other side, and none of them want that to happen.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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One could speculate that popular (among Democrats) ex-President Obama was holding off so he wouldn't be seen as influencing the choice of the Democratic primaries, at least until it was down to the final few. That way it would be clear the candidate won it on their own merits. But that's just a guess.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:10 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Are you thinking that the endorsement from an ad that has a bunch of Obama quotes from previous events. That's not an official, updated endorsement.

Warren had an ad like that too......
So does Sanders, I believe.

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Old 03-15-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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One could speculate that popular (among Democrats) ex-President Obama was holding off so he wouldn't be seen as influencing the choice of the Democratic primaries, at least until it was down to the final few. That way it would be clear the candidate won it on their own merits. But that's just a guess.
It's a darned good guess! You're exactly correct. Since every last one of them has finished his political career as a public official, none of them want to influence another individual's chances for election.

They will all remain committed party members for the rest of their lives, but as senior statesmen emeritus, their only role is to be available as advisors when called upon, and nothing more.
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