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Old 03-21-2020, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Every single person of Spanish or Latin American origin in the state of Texas was considered to be white. ALL of them. Even if they had brown skin they were considered white.

They were not a minority group. The fake "hispanic/latino" ethnicty con did not exist.
Well, that's not your call to make. Now run along and go play.
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Old 03-21-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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When it comes down to Census race questions. They are tied to how a person identifies in society. If you identify as white, then you must write white, if you identify as Hispanic, then you must write Hispanic, and so on. Remember, even when it comes to Hispanics in the Census, this is not written in the Census as a race, but only as an ethnic group and it gives you separated racial categories to pick from besides your Hispanic ethnicity. Obviously, the contradiction is that Hispanic have become a race label in American society. But my point is the Census got it right giving Hispanics two choices. I understand this have become a contradiction, not so much in the way is written in the Census, but what it means to be Hispanic in American society.



I would make the final argument not to worry too much about it, if you feel you identify a certain way in society, then write yourself as such in the Census. The Census ain't perfect by any measurements, it doesn't have mixed race labels, it puts Indians and Pakistani people in the same race label as Japanese and Chinese people and so on. So, don't worry too much about it.
And their lies the problem. The U.S., pretending not to be divisive by design, truly is. If it forces someone to check black for having one drop of black in them (what this means how visible it is) but doesn't force someone to check white or Native-American or Asian for having one drop in them, then there's the divide. We are all forced to be what we look like and that's the bottom line.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:25 AM
 
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When it comes down to Census race questions. They are tied to how a person identifies in society. If you identify as white, then you must write white, if you identify as Hispanic, then you must write Hispanic, and so on. Remember, even when it comes to Hispanics in the Census, this is not written in the Census as a race, but only as an ethnic group and it gives you separated racial categories to pick from besides your Hispanic ethnicity. Obviously, the contradiction is that Hispanic have become a race label in American society. But my point is the Census got it right giving Hispanics two choices. I understand this have become a contradiction, not so much in the way is written in the Census, but what it means to be Hispanic in American society.

I would make the final argument not to worry too much about it, if you feel you identify a certain way in society, then write yourself as such in the Census. The Census ain't perfect by any measurements, it doesn't have mixed race labels, it puts Indians and Pakistani people in the same race label as Japanese and Chinese people and so on. So, don't worry too much about it.
No, it’s not a contradiction, as Spanish-speaking nations have racial censuses as well. Further, if you are mixed, the census allows you to chose two or more races.

Indians and Pakistanis are South Asian and Japanese and Chinese people are East Asian. All those groups are Asian.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:31 AM
 
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Utter nonsense! You are what you are racially not what you identify yourself as. Hispanic isn't a race so I don't even know why it's on the census even as an ethnicity. There is no need for two choices as no one else gets two choices. You are either white, black, Amerindian, Asian racially or of mixed race. Most Hispanics in this country are of mixed race either Mestizo or Mulatto their ethnicity is irrelevant.

The census allows for the selection of two or more races. It clearly states “Mark one or more boxes and print origins.”

Stop spreading false information.

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Old 03-22-2020, 12:35 AM
 
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Utter nonsense! You are what you are racially not what you identify yourself as. Hispanic isn't a race so I don't even know why it's on the census even as an ethnicity. There is no need for two choices as no one else gets two choices. You are either white, black, Amerindian, Asian racially or of mixed race. Most Hispanics in this country are of mixed race either Mestizo or Mulatto their ethnicity is irrelevant.
On the contrary, the instructions on the census as you to mark down what you identify yourself as. A lot of people that identify themselves as white are mixed and may not even know it.
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Old 03-22-2020, 04:59 AM
 
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Hispanic isn't a race so I don't even know why it's on the census even as an ethnicity.
Hispanic ethnicity is not even real. It's something that they literally just sat down and made up in the 70s - everthing about the concept is fake and makes little objective sense. It's on the census so that "hispanic" political organizations can use the stats to demand money and resources that are for minorities.

That's the whole reason the fake "hispanic" demographic exists. They just invented that people of Spanish-Speaking origin are somehow different from the general public - so that entitles them to federal funding.
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Old 03-22-2020, 07:00 AM
 
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On the contrary, the instructions on the census as you to mark down what you identify yourself as. A lot of people that identify themselves as white are mixed and may not even know it.
Well, that is not an honest reflection of one's race then. Why not do away with the choice of two or more races then if one is just going choose one of their racial mixes as the only one they simply identify with? Here's an example. Obama is equally mixed black and white yet I'm sure on the census he only claims black as an identifier. That's an incorrect answer for his actual racial makeup.
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Old 03-22-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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According to ancestry dna, I’m primarily Portuguese and Philipino. What would someone like myself choose on a nationality questionnaire?
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Old 03-22-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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According to ancestry dna, I’m primarily Portuguese and Philipino. What would someone like myself choose on a nationality questionnaire?
The Census isn't about nationality it is about race.
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Every single person of Spanish or Latin American origin in the state of Texas was considered to be white. ALL of them. Even if they had brown skin they were considered white.

They were not a minority group. The fake "hispanic/latino" ethnicty con did not exist.
Keyword: was. This is 2020 not 1920.
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