Italy's Tale of Why Universal Healthcare Is Not Good
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I could carry the demographic comparisons further, but this should be enough to help you see the picture more clearly.
We are earlier in the curve and that is just a larger pool of people to grow in. You don't get a linear amount of extra time per person, if you assume everyone in the country had it, its exponential so it only takes a few extra weeks to go from saturation at 60 mil to saturation at 329 mil.
Doubling every 4 days
60
4 Days
120
8 Days
240
<Saturation point somewhere in here
12 Days
580
Meaning if Italy let this thing rage with no restrictions and the US let it rage with no restrictions the larger population buys you roughly <2 extra weeks before population saturation
Now, we are starting to take action, and hopefully we can cut that off.
Well, I'll beat the drum once more. In the U.S., what we face is a good health crisis. Easily and cost effectively remedied. Not fun to be inactive, eating empty calories - nutritionally speaking - laden with chlolestral, trans fats, etc. only to end up fat, with lifestyle contributed if not outright caused and chronic diseases.
Along comes a pandemic and a culling of the herd happens. So to speak.
This is the real fact of life and death.
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Originally Posted by Mircea
When a lung cancer patients succumbs to flu or pneumonia, that's the cause of death listed, not lung cancer, and that's done to hide the fact that healthcare is delayed, diluted and denied.
That's not conjecture, that's a report written by the IEA Health & Welfare Unit titled Delay, Denial and Dilution: The Impact of NHS Rationing on Heart Disease and Cancer.
Yes, I was off on that. Thank you for the correction. I have seen vastly different numbers quoted. I think that total number you reference above is counting ventilators normal used in OR's and outside the ICU, not in use etc, which for a situation like this, should count in the total number.
Still nowhere near enough for a situation like this, but a (potential) situation like this has never occurred before...
It's interesting you talk about how you use Italy to criticize universal healthcare but conveniently left out how South Korea, a country that also has universal healthcare, has had one of the best responses and containment of this pandemic.
It's interesting you talk about how you use Italy to criticize universal healthcare but conveniently left out how South Korea, a country that also has universal healthcare, has had one of the best responses and containment of this pandemic.
OP, would you like to try again?
Cherry picking: it’s not just for orchard workers.
It's interesting you talk about how you use Italy to criticize universal healthcare but conveniently left out how South Korea, a country that also has universal healthcare, has had one of the best responses and containment of this pandemic.
OP, would you like to try again?
Taiwan also has UHI and has contained that quite effectively.
I think it's also a matter of mindset - these countries had experienced SARS in 2003 and were mentally and structurally prepared for it.
italy has more hospital beds per capita than the US. You can also purchase private insurance for 98 euros a year.
That’s impossible. Everyone knows the government cannot possibly provide a better service, for anything, at lower cost compared to the private sector.
They can’t put anything in economics textbooks or on TV if it isn’t true.
Right?
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