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View Poll Results: Has the coronavirus changed your view on universal health care and guaranteed paid sick days?
Yes, society as a whole benefits when we ensure people have health care and dont transmit diseases at work 38 52.78%
No, if people cant pay for it, they should go without 34 47.22%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-17-2020, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Special situations call for special measures, but that does not mean you change the basic facts due to a natural disaster or the like.

Sadly many on the left are using this as a means to try and push their agenda, rather than just dealing with this pandemic and funding direct measures to combat it. Pelosi trying to insert things like repealing the Hyde Amendment (has nothing to do with COVID-9) is a perfect example.



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That **** tried to slip in abortion protections too. The bill was full of pork. It should have been a clean bill instead the Dems have to play games. Then they wonder why 60% of the country hates them.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:53 PM
 
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So you're fine with lots of people going to work sick and transmitting coronavirus?
I am 100%. It is not going to be contained at this point. Its better to let it run its course and get it over with. A large amount of people are at work right now and don't even know they have it.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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It changed my perspective on health care.

I had never really though about the healthcare system in the context of its impact on national security before this.

Formerly I was on the fence, but I wouldn't want an entirely private for-profit ran military, and now I feel the same way about healthcare.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:56 PM
 
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I am 100%. It is not going to be contained at this point. Its better to let it run its course and get it over with. A large amount of people are at work right now and don't even know they have it.
So letting the virus run its course over the next 12 months with millions of dead is preferable to guaranteed paid sick leave for every worker?
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:57 PM
 
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Ok. And now because we don't have it, COVID-19 has become a much larger problem than it otherwise would have been, Americans who could have sought treatment promptly won't, and they will spread the disease much faster than in countries that offer health care and sick leave to their workers. It will cost far more to handle the economic depression to follow and more people will die. But God forbid we actually regulate the behavior of big business to save lives.
no, sorry, this is just false. the panic has become the problem. Once it left china it was going to spread no matter what. The government isnt' the white knight to everything like you think.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Has the pandemic in any way made you reconsider your position on health care and paid sick days?
The Great Depression tricked the people into passing Social Security and it has been the worst investments for people ever created. Don't be tempted to turn over your healthcare to the government. You will never be able to get it back.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:01 PM
 
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So letting the virus run its course over the next 12 months with millions of dead is preferable to guaranteed paid sick leave for every worker?
millions will die over the next 12 months with or without the corona virus. the world will go on. the false dichotomy you are presenting is absurd. guaranteed sick leave (which most people with half way decent jobs already have) has very very very little to do with the spread of the corona virus.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Has the pandemic in any way made you reconsider your position on health care and paid sick days?
No.

First, execute current immigration laws, secure the border, stop aggressive policy rhetoric and practice blatantly in favor of illegal immigration, and now also diversify and re-domesticate supply lines of critical products.

Then, we can talk about an expanded national government-guaranteed pool for health insurance, combined with transparent price mechanisms in the private sector.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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No.

First, execute current immigration laws, secure the border, stop aggressive policy rhetoric and practice blatantly in favor of illegal immigration, and now also diversify and re-domesticate supply lines of critical products.

Then, we can talk about an expanded national government-guaranteed pool for health insurance, combined with transparent price mechanisms in the private sector.
I agree with this! America first! Americans first! Illegals last!
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:20 PM
 
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If they do Medicare for all, doctors get paid 40% less than they do now. If you think the medical system is slammed now, can you imagine that? I didn't vote in your ridiculous slanted survey.
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