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Old 03-20-2020, 03:49 PM
 
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Wuhan or Hubei virus indeed seems like a reasonable colloquial name for it.
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Old 03-20-2020, 03:54 PM
 
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Again, I have not seen any proof of a cover-up, yet, nor is it illegal for a country to cover up disasters within their territories, in fact it is not uncommon around the world. Most countries initially think they can handle disasters alone and thus don't exactly shout it out loud.
They knew they had a massive infection on their hands (sadly, the whistleblower doctor who gave an early alert is dead), and yet they still let their planes take off for every country throughout the world. I wouldn't be so quick to defend China!
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Old 03-20-2020, 03:56 PM
 
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Keep dreaming. There is no law against accidentally causing an epidemic. There is not even a court that would be responsible.
Also, China is helping European countries as we speak while Europe has had nothing but bad experiences with the US for years now and your president is considered a complete moron by Europeans. Many people here in Europe are sick of Americans. And Europe needs the Chinese market for its exports.
In short, hardly any country will join you in your anti-China crusade.
I'm not American but if I was forced to pick a side, it would be America every time
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Old 03-20-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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They just may. Could be the recovery plan. US defaults on all Chinese loans. US seizes all companies own by the Chinese. Uses those assets to bring manufacturing back home while refusing entry of the Chinese. Prohibit any and all future of purchases of any US asset to include all those homes they own here. In fact, seize those assets too.
China needs to hurt once this is over
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Old 03-20-2020, 03:58 PM
 
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China needs to hurt once this is over
My fear is that China will play nasty: No antibiotics for YOU, America!
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Old 03-20-2020, 04:05 PM
 
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They knew they had a massive infection on their hands (sadly, the whistleblower doctor who gave an early alert is dead), and yet they still let their planes take off for every country throughout the world. I wouldn't be so quick to defend China!
I am not quick to defend China, but I am not quick to condemn it, either.

Doctor Li himself did not want his initial worries to become public like that at first, it seems someone published Li's statements made in a private chat. And that got him into trouble.

Plus, a high court of China later defended him and a few others.

So, that whole China = bad crap is just silly in my view. It is a complex country, which many Americans don't seem to understand.

China told the WHO about its big public health problem in Hubei in late December, actually the same day or only one day later than Li's leaked chat statements. The WHO could and should have warned the rest of the world.
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Old 03-20-2020, 04:07 PM
 
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I'm not American but if I was forced to pick a side, it would be America every time
I won't side with either, they are both rogue states.
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Old 03-20-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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China needs to hurt once this is over
Really? That doesn't say much for your expression of humanity and empathy.
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Old 03-20-2020, 04:08 PM
 
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China needs to hurt once this is over
Their economy has suffered a lot for months. Don't put it as though nothing happened in China.
You probably didn't see it on American TV, but Chinese doctors and nurses worked till they dropped, some died from exhaustion.

The fact that Europe and the US are suffering from this pandemic so much now is due to their own lack of preparedness, their own slowness in response, their own mistakes.

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Old 03-20-2020, 04:13 PM
 
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I'm not American but if I was forced to pick a side, it would be America every time
You shouldn't be picking a side. This is a global pandemic - which requires more cooperation rather than finger pointing - which doesn't help at all.

Let me again say it - viruses don't care who you are or where you came from.
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