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Old 03-31-2020, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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1. About 3000 US citizens died of CV so far, probably none of them were treated with hydroxychloroquine -> WHY??? Isn't it murder? Start treating everyone, then prove that it doesnt work. That 3000, what did they die for? For the sake of a scientific documentation?



2. hydroxychloroquine deployed on all hospitalized CV patients could reduce death rate so much, that the shutdown could end much sooner. Basically hydroxychloroquinecould save the economy, millions of businesses, creers, amily fortunes and lives. If you loose your business you built in 20 years, the only thing left is suicide. How many? Probably in par with projected CV medical deaths.
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Old 03-31-2020, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So we are literally performing laboratory experiments on humans?
And the deadly part of that experiment is the patients who get the placebo, and the patients who are denied the drug as the doctor waits for clinical trials to complete.
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Old 03-31-2020, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Everyone who is hospitalized with it should be given the drug. In hospitals they have doctors, the doctors can administer the correct dosage.
Drug treatment is best given before the patient gets so sick that hospitalization in required.
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Old 03-31-2020, 04:48 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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How long until they can make a formal study that is more diagnostic?
Who is "they"?

If the state of NY is treating ~1100 patients with it, that's a sample size 10x of the doc in France, right? Surely that paints a clearer picture.

I didn't say anything about a "formal study". I said I hope the doc in France is right, but there are legitimate red flags with what/how he did his "testing", apparently.
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Old 03-31-2020, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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1. About 3000 US citizens died of CV so far, probably none of them were treated with hydroxychloroquine -> WHY??? Isn't it murder? Start treating everyone, then prove that it doesnt work. That 3000, what did they die for? For the sake of a scientific documentation?



2. hydroxychloroquine deployed on all hospitalized CV patients could reduce death rate so much, that the shutdown could end much sooner. Basically hydroxychloroquinecould save the economy, millions of businesses, creers, amily fortunes and lives. If you loose your business you built in 20 years, the only thing left is suicide. How many? Probably in par with projected CV medical deaths.
Liberals are begging for more deaths in the belief (probably accurate) that it would give them a chance to beat Trump in November...hydroxychloroquine gets in the way of their dreams.
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Old 03-31-2020, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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1. About 3000 US citizens died of CV so far, probably none of them were treated with hydroxychloroquine -> WHY??? Isn't it murder? Start treating everyone, then prove that it doesnt work. That 3000, what did they die for? For the sake of a scientific documentation?



2. hydroxychloroquine deployed on all hospitalized CV patients could reduce death rate so much, that the shutdown could end much sooner. Basically hydroxychloroquinecould save the economy, millions of businesses, creers, amily fortunes and lives. If you loose your business you built in 20 years, the only thing left is suicide. How many? Probably in par with projected CV medical deaths.
As stated before chloroquine is a dangerous drug, especially if you have pre-existing conditions like arrhythmia which is common among the elderly who are the ones who need it. 99% of the infected dont anything but rest and liquids.

Why are we focuses on helping 3000, when 64 000 have already died of the flu? Wouldn't it make sense to find a cure for the flu? But of course we already shut down the economy for Corona, so not its becoming a face-saving effort for the panicers.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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FDA just approved emergency use of hydroxychloroquine sulfate based on anecdotal evidence. That's... a little concerning. Hopefully it saves more people than it kills.
Get back to us when you are in the hospital and the doc asks you, “Do you want to try this new combination of drugs which might cure you and really won’t harm you, or do you want pulmonary fibrosis and possible death?”
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:23 AM
 
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Liberals are begging for more deaths in the belief (probably accurate) that it would give them a chance to beat Trump in November...hydroxychloroquine gets in the way of their dreams.
Exactly. And since most medical providers are liberals you better believe they will do everything possible not to give this drug... and if someone dies.. they don't care.

That is their arrogance.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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Exactly. And since most medical providers are liberals you better believe they will do everything possible not to give this drug... and if someone dies.. they don't care.

That is their arrogance.
This is a sick sentiment. Right now our health care workers are literally putting their lives on the line to save our country and as many Americans as possible. To suggest they will let intentionally people die just to hurt Donald Trump in some abstract way is absolutely disgusting.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:38 AM
 
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It is being widely prescribed to Doctors and Nurses, and others in the heathcare setting. That tells me all I need to know.

Then, the 2 French studies, and then pharmas ramping up production 1000x normal levels.

Then, New York testing it upon Thousands.

I think the Frnech study combined the Trump Drug with a arthritus med too. Arithrmyicin I think.
This is from a group of New York doctors led by Dr Zelenko. - outpatient medication for 600 patients.
All but one clear of Virus in 5 days. I’m in a high risk group, not really worried about getting the Wu-Flu. - but if I should, this is what I will ask my doctor for and sign any waiver to get it. According to these Doctors, it’s important to take the regimen early.

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
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